mercredi 29 juin 2011
5495
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GRAINE DE POILU.
Carte postale en couleur, Éditions patriotiques, 1914-1915.
Fonds Garrigue
Au dos de cette carte représentant un enfant sortant d’un œuf avec baïonnette et képi, Marcel Garrigue écrit à sa femme :
« Je t’envoie cette carte pour que tu vois bien ce à quoi s’amusent nos patriotes de l’arrière…Mais cela n’empêche qu’en riant ils disent la vérité. Il faudra que les femmes en France parent les gosses de 20 ans avec un sac et un fusil et que tout de suite ils demandent les boches, sans cela il n’y aura bientôt plus personne sur le front ».
[Prémonition. 20 ans plus tard, ça recommençait. Le temps que les gens oublient. Le temps que les femmes pondent une autre génération de soldats. Mais contrairement à ce qu'il pensait alors, il y a eu assez de gens sur le front pour en tuer des millions. Et 20 ans après, il y en aurait assez pour en tuer 10 fois plus. Comme on ne retient aucune leçon, ni les gens qui, finalement, sont toujours les dindons du Réveillon, ni les gouvernements qui n'apprennent jamais rien et qui, sans cesse préparent toujours de nouveaux Réveillons pour les dindons toujours bien contents d'y participer. Ce sont de bons dindons! Après quelques guerres suivant celles-là, on est prêt à recommencer 70 ans plus tard.]
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http://www.cg47.org/archives/Expositions/14-18/front_mourir.html
GRAINE DE POILU.
Carte postale en couleur, Éditions patriotiques, 1914-1915.
Fonds Garrigue
Au dos de cette carte représentant un enfant sortant d’un œuf avec baïonnette et képi, Marcel Garrigue écrit à sa femme :
« Je t’envoie cette carte pour que tu vois bien ce à quoi s’amusent nos patriotes de l’arrière…Mais cela n’empêche qu’en riant ils disent la vérité. Il faudra que les femmes en France parent les gosses de 20 ans avec un sac et un fusil et que tout de suite ils demandent les boches, sans cela il n’y aura bientôt plus personne sur le front ».
[Prémonition. 20 ans plus tard, ça recommençait. Le temps que les gens oublient. Le temps que les femmes pondent une autre génération de soldats. Mais contrairement à ce qu'il pensait alors, il y a eu assez de gens sur le front pour en tuer des millions. Et 20 ans après, il y en aurait assez pour en tuer 10 fois plus. Comme on ne retient aucune leçon, ni les gens qui, finalement, sont toujours les dindons du Réveillon, ni les gouvernements qui n'apprennent jamais rien et qui, sans cesse préparent toujours de nouveaux Réveillons pour les dindons toujours bien contents d'y participer. Ce sont de bons dindons! Après quelques guerres suivant celles-là, on est prêt à recommencer 70 ans plus tard.]
5494. DANIEL DENIS - BONJOUR CHEZ VOUS !
DOUTEUR. PROFESSEUR BULLE. HENRY DICKSON
Chanson. Daniel Denis - Bonjour Chez Vous
5493. NURSERY RHYMES FOR KIDS
LES CHANSONS HÉROÏQUES
COUPLETS PATRIOTIQUES
Dans les Jolies Chansons Patriotiques
1
Point de pitié, point de clémence!
Quand nous trouvons tous ces gueux,
Envoyons-les, en diligence,
En enfer, revoir leurs aïeux!
C’est un sot, celui qui s’honore
D’épargner ceux qu’il a vaincus!
Les vaincus reviennent encore,
Mais les morts ne reviennent plus.
2
Pour effacer jusqu’à la trace,
Des Impériaux, des Allemands,
Il faut exterminer leur race
Dans leurs femmes et leurs enfants;
Des cris de ces jeunes vipères,
Que nos cœurs ne soient point émus,
Ces enfants vengeraient leurs pères…
Masi les morts ne se vengent plus.
3
Si quand ils nous font résistance,
Le soldat pille leurs maisons,
Si la flamme de leur vengeance
Décore jusqu’à leurs moissons,
Pour mettre fin à leur détresse,
Nous leur accordons le trépas;
Vivants ils se plaindraient sans cesse…
Mais les morts ne se plaignent pas.
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Les Trois Couleurs, no. 12. 25 fév. 1915.
Cité dans 14-18 dans la bande dessinée. Images de la Grande Guerre de Forton à Tardi
De Bruno Déchénère, Luc Révillon
Éditions Cheminements. Collection La Bulle au Carré.
p. 15
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[Il s'agit de contines patriotiques (qui riment) à réciter aux enfants sages pour savoir qui ils vont étriper une fois qu'ils seront grands. Et pour qu'ils soient fiers de leurs pères et grands frères lorsqu'ils reviendront du front avec l'air songeur. On remarquera qu'on ne parle pas ici des méchants nazis qui n'existaient pas encore. Mais que cette guerre va créer en leur donnant un idéal.]
COUPLETS PATRIOTIQUES
Dans les Jolies Chansons Patriotiques
1
Point de pitié, point de clémence!
Quand nous trouvons tous ces gueux,
Envoyons-les, en diligence,
En enfer, revoir leurs aïeux!
C’est un sot, celui qui s’honore
D’épargner ceux qu’il a vaincus!
Les vaincus reviennent encore,
Mais les morts ne reviennent plus.
2
Pour effacer jusqu’à la trace,
Des Impériaux, des Allemands,
Il faut exterminer leur race
Dans leurs femmes et leurs enfants;
Des cris de ces jeunes vipères,
Que nos cœurs ne soient point émus,
Ces enfants vengeraient leurs pères…
Masi les morts ne se vengent plus.
3
Si quand ils nous font résistance,
Le soldat pille leurs maisons,
Si la flamme de leur vengeance
Décore jusqu’à leurs moissons,
Pour mettre fin à leur détresse,
Nous leur accordons le trépas;
Vivants ils se plaindraient sans cesse…
Mais les morts ne se plaignent pas.
*
Les Trois Couleurs, no. 12. 25 fév. 1915.
Cité dans 14-18 dans la bande dessinée. Images de la Grande Guerre de Forton à Tardi
De Bruno Déchénère, Luc Révillon
Éditions Cheminements. Collection La Bulle au Carré.
p. 15
*
[Il s'agit de contines patriotiques (qui riment) à réciter aux enfants sages pour savoir qui ils vont étriper une fois qu'ils seront grands. Et pour qu'ils soient fiers de leurs pères et grands frères lorsqu'ils reviendront du front avec l'air songeur. On remarquera qu'on ne parle pas ici des méchants nazis qui n'existaient pas encore. Mais que cette guerre va créer en leur donnant un idéal.]
mardi 28 juin 2011
5492. LE RÊVE DES ENFANTS SAGES. ET IL FONCTIONNE! MERCI PAPA! MERCI SECRÉTAIRE GÉNÉRAL DU PARTI ! MERCI FRÈRE NUMÉRO UN!
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La guerre et les enfants soldats
http://www.studentsoftheworld.info/sites/divers/1318.php
La guerre et les enfants soldats
5491. VPA . VIET MINH - SAIRAGON
DOUTEUR. PROFESSEUR BULLE. HENRY DICKSON
Chanson. Vpa | Viet Minh - Sairagon
5490
AFGHANISTAN
CHILD USED IN AFGHAN BOMB ATTACK
Jun 26, 2011
The Associated Press
http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/story/2011/06/26/afghanistan-bombings.html
Afghan security officials say insurgents gave an eight-year-old Afghan girl a concealed bomb and detonated it as she approached police in the country's south, killing her.
Afghan authorities said Sunday no one else was hurt in the bomb attack Saturday in the Char Chino district of Uruzgan province.
The insurgency occasionally uses children in its attacks in Afghanistan to avoid suspicion.
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In May, a 12-year-old boy detonated a vest packed with explosives inside a bazaar in the Barmal district of the eastern province of Paktika, killing four civilians.
*
It was the second bomb attack reported on Saturday.
A car bomb blew up outside a medical clinic in eastern Afghanistan killing 38 people.
The explosion caused the collapse of a 10-bed medical clinic in Logar province, injuring more than 50 people. Patients, visitors and clinic workers were among the casualties.
The Taliban denied responsibility for the hospital bombing. Zabiullah Mujahid, a spokesman for the movement, told The Associated Press in a phone interview that "this attack was not done by our fighters."
Dr. Mohammad Zaref Nayebkhail, the provincial health director, said the clinic guards tried to prevent the bomber from driving into the compound.
"The driver didn't stop and he entered the compound and reached the main building of the health centre, where the truck detonated,"
said Nayebkhail.
The Afghan government condemned the attack.
"Our health centres are not the place of political and military activities and our staff do not engage in political activities,"
said Dr Soraya Daleel, Afghanistan's minister of public health.
"This is an inhumane action,"
she said.
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Late Friday, another blast — this one caused by a bicycle rigged with explosives — ripped through a bazaar in the Khanabad districk of Kunduz province in northern Afghanistan, killing at least 10 people, including a police officer.
At least 24 people were wounded in the attack, according to an Interior Ministry statement.
165 comments
CHILD USED IN AFGHAN BOMB ATTACK
Jun 26, 2011
The Associated Press
http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/story/2011/06/26/afghanistan-bombings.html
Afghan security officials say insurgents gave an eight-year-old Afghan girl a concealed bomb and detonated it as she approached police in the country's south, killing her.
Afghan authorities said Sunday no one else was hurt in the bomb attack Saturday in the Char Chino district of Uruzgan province.
The insurgency occasionally uses children in its attacks in Afghanistan to avoid suspicion.
*
In May, a 12-year-old boy detonated a vest packed with explosives inside a bazaar in the Barmal district of the eastern province of Paktika, killing four civilians.
*
It was the second bomb attack reported on Saturday.
A car bomb blew up outside a medical clinic in eastern Afghanistan killing 38 people.
The explosion caused the collapse of a 10-bed medical clinic in Logar province, injuring more than 50 people. Patients, visitors and clinic workers were among the casualties.
The Taliban denied responsibility for the hospital bombing. Zabiullah Mujahid, a spokesman for the movement, told The Associated Press in a phone interview that "this attack was not done by our fighters."
Dr. Mohammad Zaref Nayebkhail, the provincial health director, said the clinic guards tried to prevent the bomber from driving into the compound.
"The driver didn't stop and he entered the compound and reached the main building of the health centre, where the truck detonated,"
said Nayebkhail.
The Afghan government condemned the attack.
"Our health centres are not the place of political and military activities and our staff do not engage in political activities,"
said Dr Soraya Daleel, Afghanistan's minister of public health.
"This is an inhumane action,"
she said.
*
Late Friday, another blast — this one caused by a bicycle rigged with explosives — ripped through a bazaar in the Khanabad districk of Kunduz province in northern Afghanistan, killing at least 10 people, including a police officer.
At least 24 people were wounded in the attack, according to an Interior Ministry statement.
165 comments
5489
PAKISTANI TALIBAN USE FEMALE BOMBER FOR FIRST TIME
June 26, 2011
Associated Press
DERA ISMAIL KHAN, Pakistan –
http://www.foxnews.com/world/2011/06/26/pakistani-taliban-use-female-bomber-for-first-time/?
The Pakistani Taliban said Sunday the group had sent a husband and wife suicide squad to carry out an attack on a police station in northwestern Pakistan that killed 10 people, a rare instance of militants using a woman as a bomber.
The pair entered the police station in Kolachi on Saturday and said they were there to lodge a complaint, said Imtiaz Shah, a senior police official.
Once inside, the two attacked with grenades and machine guns, triggering a five-hour standoff with police.
Both attackers, including the woman wearing an all-covering robe known as a burqa, eventually blew themselves up.
They killed eight police officers and two civilians, said Mohammad Hussain, another police official.
"This shows how much we hate Pakistani security institutions,"
Pakistani Taliban spokesman Ahsanullah Ahsan told The Associated Press by telephone from an undisclosed location.
Ahsan claimed it was the first time the militant group had used a female suicide bomber.
However, Pakistani officials said a female suicide bomber wearing a burqa attacked a World Food Program food distribution center in northwestern Pakistan late last year, killing 45 people.
The Pakistani Taliban claimed responsibility for that attack in Khar, the main city in the Bajur tribal area, but never claimed it was carried out by a female bomber.
Still, that was believed to be the group's first attack by a female suicide bomber.
Male suicide bombers often don the burqa as a disguise.
In 2007, officials initially claimed Pakistan's first female suicide bomber had killed 14 people in the northwest town of Bannu. But the attacker was later identified as a man.
Islamic militants in Iraq have used female suicide bombers several times because women in their all-covering robes are seen as able to pass more easily through security.
Male security officers are often hesitant to search women.
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Also Sunday, a bomb planted in a motorcycle exploded near a police station in the central city of Multan, said Zahid Zaman, a senior government official.
June 26, 2011
Associated Press
DERA ISMAIL KHAN, Pakistan –
http://www.foxnews.com/world/2011/06/26/pakistani-taliban-use-female-bomber-for-first-time/?
The Pakistani Taliban said Sunday the group had sent a husband and wife suicide squad to carry out an attack on a police station in northwestern Pakistan that killed 10 people, a rare instance of militants using a woman as a bomber.
The pair entered the police station in Kolachi on Saturday and said they were there to lodge a complaint, said Imtiaz Shah, a senior police official.
Once inside, the two attacked with grenades and machine guns, triggering a five-hour standoff with police.
Both attackers, including the woman wearing an all-covering robe known as a burqa, eventually blew themselves up.
They killed eight police officers and two civilians, said Mohammad Hussain, another police official.
"This shows how much we hate Pakistani security institutions,"
Pakistani Taliban spokesman Ahsanullah Ahsan told The Associated Press by telephone from an undisclosed location.
Ahsan claimed it was the first time the militant group had used a female suicide bomber.
However, Pakistani officials said a female suicide bomber wearing a burqa attacked a World Food Program food distribution center in northwestern Pakistan late last year, killing 45 people.
The Pakistani Taliban claimed responsibility for that attack in Khar, the main city in the Bajur tribal area, but never claimed it was carried out by a female bomber.
Still, that was believed to be the group's first attack by a female suicide bomber.
Male suicide bombers often don the burqa as a disguise.
In 2007, officials initially claimed Pakistan's first female suicide bomber had killed 14 people in the northwest town of Bannu. But the attacker was later identified as a man.
Islamic militants in Iraq have used female suicide bombers several times because women in their all-covering robes are seen as able to pass more easily through security.
Male security officers are often hesitant to search women.
*
Also Sunday, a bomb planted in a motorcycle exploded near a police station in the central city of Multan, said Zahid Zaman, a senior government official.
5488
PAKISTAN
UN TALIBAN ET SA FEMME SE FONT EXPLOSER, TUANT 12 POLICIERS
26 juin 2011
http://www.radio-canada.ca/nouvelles/International/2011/06/26/001-kamikazes-policiers-pakistan.shtml
Les talibans pakistanais ont revendiqué une attaque perpétrée samedi par un couple de kamikazes contre un poste de police de l'ouest du pays qui a fait 12 morts.
Armés de fusils d'assaut et de grenades, un taliban et sa femme ont pris en otage une douzaine de policiers durant plusieurs heures dans une localité proche du Sud-Waziristan, un fief des talibans à la frontière afghane.
Ils ont tué cinq policiers puis se sont fait exploser au moment où les commandos sont entrés dans le poste, causant la mort de sept autres membres des forces de l'ordre, a affirmé la police.
Selon le porte-parole du Mouvement des talibans du Pakistan (TTP) Ehsanullah Ehsan, l'attentat a été perpétré pour venger Oussama ben Laden, le chef d'Al-Qaïda, tué par les forces spéciales américaines le 2 mai dernier, et en représaille aux attaques d'Islamabad contre les islamistes.
Proche d'Al-Qaïda, le TTP a intensifié ses opérations meurtrières depuis l'assassinat de Ben Laden.
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Le mouvement a notamment revendiqué une attaque contre une base militaire à Karachi le 23 mai,
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un attentat à la bombe contre des véhicules du consulat américain à Peshawar trois jours plus tôt,
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ainsi qu'un double attentat-suicide qui a fait près de 100 morts le 13 mai devant un centre d'entraînement de Shabqadar.
Radio-Canada.ca avec Reuters
En profondeur
Ben Laden : mort du chef d'Al-Qaïda
Nos articles sur la mort d'Oussama ben Laden, une biographie du chef d'Al-Qaïda et nos dossiers
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UN TALIBAN ET SA FEMME SE FONT EXPLOSER, TUANT 12 POLICIERS
26 juin 2011
http://www.radio-canada.ca/nouvelles/International/2011/06/26/001-kamikazes-policiers-pakistan.shtml
Les talibans pakistanais ont revendiqué une attaque perpétrée samedi par un couple de kamikazes contre un poste de police de l'ouest du pays qui a fait 12 morts.
Armés de fusils d'assaut et de grenades, un taliban et sa femme ont pris en otage une douzaine de policiers durant plusieurs heures dans une localité proche du Sud-Waziristan, un fief des talibans à la frontière afghane.
Ils ont tué cinq policiers puis se sont fait exploser au moment où les commandos sont entrés dans le poste, causant la mort de sept autres membres des forces de l'ordre, a affirmé la police.
Selon le porte-parole du Mouvement des talibans du Pakistan (TTP) Ehsanullah Ehsan, l'attentat a été perpétré pour venger Oussama ben Laden, le chef d'Al-Qaïda, tué par les forces spéciales américaines le 2 mai dernier, et en représaille aux attaques d'Islamabad contre les islamistes.
Proche d'Al-Qaïda, le TTP a intensifié ses opérations meurtrières depuis l'assassinat de Ben Laden.
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Le mouvement a notamment revendiqué une attaque contre une base militaire à Karachi le 23 mai,
*
un attentat à la bombe contre des véhicules du consulat américain à Peshawar trois jours plus tôt,
*
ainsi qu'un double attentat-suicide qui a fait près de 100 morts le 13 mai devant un centre d'entraînement de Shabqadar.
Radio-Canada.ca avec Reuters
En profondeur
Ben Laden : mort du chef d'Al-Qaïda
Nos articles sur la mort d'Oussama ben Laden, une biographie du chef d'Al-Qaïda et nos dossiers
Commenter (18)
5487
AFHANISTAN
ONE BOMB, MANY LIVES
THE DESTRUCTION OF CALL-SIGN 4-2 CHARLIE
Au 20 déc. 2010
http://www.cbc.ca/news/background/afghanistan/cp-one-bomb.html
[30 déc. 2009. Document interactif, avec des cartes montrant les déplacements des 2 (?) véhicules légers LAV (imprudent) de 8 roues et 20 tonnes jusqu’à ce que l’un d’eux passe sur une bombe commandée à distance (par fil). Une des plus grosses du moment, plusieurs centaines de livres d’explosif. Le premier véhicule, le C/S 4-2 Alpha passa et le deuxième, le C/S 4-2 Charlie avec 10 personnes à bord fut projeté dans les airs. 5 morts. 5 blessés (mais dans quel état?) ]
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STATISTIQUE
Depuis 2002, 154 soldats canadiens et 2 civils sont morts en mission, 136 sont morts au combat (ou tués par une bombe artisane (IED)) et 611 ont été blessés. Et il y en a eu d’autres depuis. Sans compter les suicidé(e)s.
BY THE NUMBERS
2002
Afghanistan. Les Canadiens restent près de Kaboul
4 morts
8 blessés
2003
2 morts
3 blessés
2004
1 morts
3 blessés
2005
0 mort
2 blessés
2006
Les Canadiens quittent Kaboul et vont à Kandahar
32 morts
180 blessés
2007
27 morts
84 blessés
2008
27 morts
125 blessés
2009
29 morts
124 blessés
AOÛT 2009
Soldats de la coalition
55 morts
333 blessés
2010. Les soldats US arrivent en nombre à Kandahar
14 morts
82 blessés
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IED INCIDENTS IN AFGHANISTAN
JANV. 2004- MAI 2010
(voir carte) http://www.cbc.ca/news/background/afghanistan/cp-one-bomb.html
Mai 2010
1128 «incidents»
La plus grande partie a été découverte et désactivée. Sauf pour quelques malchanceux!
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[Ce qu’on croit comprendre :
Le printemps est le début de la saison des combats, lorsque les jeunes paysans ont terminé la récolte du pavot (opium, héroïne) et ont plus de temps de libre. La terre est plus molle ce qui facilite le creusage des bombes. À la télévision, on nous parle toujours de l’«Offensive du printemps» qui va venir et ou qui est arrivé. Et on nous montre (on est à la tv) les dizaines de chars d’assauts et de canons dirigés vers le désert où semble-t-il d’après ce qu’on nous dit, vont arriver les hordes de combattants. Comme les Mongols de Gengis Khan ou les Apaches ou Cheyennes de John Wayne. Ou de Mexicains vers Fort Alamo (encore avec John Wayne). Ou les Coréens du Nord. Communistes athées. Avec tous ces canons, ce sera une boucherie. Et aucune personne de moindrement raisonnables n’affrontera des chars et des canons avec des kalashnikovs. Mais ils ne viennent jamais ou pas comme ça. C’est une guérilla. Comme au Vietnam. En Irlande. Ou en Algérie. Ils regardent les convois passer et placent une bombe pour attraper le suivant. Récemment, on a asphalté des routes ce qui rend l’opération difficile. Il n’y a pas encore de nid de poules comme à Montréal. On utilise aussi des appareils pour bloquer les ondes radio ce qui empêche de faire sauter les bombes à longue distance avec des téléphones portables. Il faut donc utiliser un fil relié au détonateur, ce qui est moins discret. S’il reste des survivants, ils risquent de vous voir déguerpir. Ou une minuterie, ce qui est hasardeux. Ou une bombe qui saute au contact comme au Vietnam. Pendant, le jour, les soldats déterrent les bombes qu’on vient réenterrer la nuit. D’autres bombes. On dit qu’on en trouve 10%. Étant donné le nombre de morts et de blessés le nombre de bombes doit être hallucinant. Et le nombre de ceux qui les enterrent. On peut aussi utiliser une auto piégée. Un camion de crème glacée. Un vélo. Une femme ou une fillette avec une ceinture d’explosif. On va alors en ville faires sauter des postes de police.
Question : l’article nous parle benoitement des champs de pavots, des jeunes paysans qui ont terminé les récoltes. Il n’y a personne qui pense à détruire ces champs. Et question quizz. Une fois la récolte terminée, la culture, la récolte est aussi illégale là-bas qu’ici, que fait-on du sirop? On peut le traiter sur place mais comment l’exporter puisque toutes les frontières sont contrôlées par l’armée. Sur terre. Air. Satellite. Et on ne parle pas de cacher des condoms dans les vagin d’une touriste ou un kilo dans un pneu de secours mais de tonnes. Il en faut des ânes pour transporter tout ça. Ou des camions. Ou des avions. Ou des hélicoptères? ]
ONE BOMB, MANY LIVES
THE DESTRUCTION OF CALL-SIGN 4-2 CHARLIE
Au 20 déc. 2010
http://www.cbc.ca/news/background/afghanistan/cp-one-bomb.html
[30 déc. 2009. Document interactif, avec des cartes montrant les déplacements des 2 (?) véhicules légers LAV (imprudent) de 8 roues et 20 tonnes jusqu’à ce que l’un d’eux passe sur une bombe commandée à distance (par fil). Une des plus grosses du moment, plusieurs centaines de livres d’explosif. Le premier véhicule, le C/S 4-2 Alpha passa et le deuxième, le C/S 4-2 Charlie avec 10 personnes à bord fut projeté dans les airs. 5 morts. 5 blessés (mais dans quel état?) ]
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STATISTIQUE
Depuis 2002, 154 soldats canadiens et 2 civils sont morts en mission, 136 sont morts au combat (ou tués par une bombe artisane (IED)) et 611 ont été blessés. Et il y en a eu d’autres depuis. Sans compter les suicidé(e)s.
BY THE NUMBERS
2002
Afghanistan. Les Canadiens restent près de Kaboul
4 morts
8 blessés
2003
2 morts
3 blessés
2004
1 morts
3 blessés
2005
0 mort
2 blessés
2006
Les Canadiens quittent Kaboul et vont à Kandahar
32 morts
180 blessés
2007
27 morts
84 blessés
2008
27 morts
125 blessés
2009
29 morts
124 blessés
AOÛT 2009
Soldats de la coalition
55 morts
333 blessés
2010. Les soldats US arrivent en nombre à Kandahar
14 morts
82 blessés
*
IED INCIDENTS IN AFGHANISTAN
JANV. 2004- MAI 2010
(voir carte) http://www.cbc.ca/news/background/afghanistan/cp-one-bomb.html
Mai 2010
1128 «incidents»
La plus grande partie a été découverte et désactivée. Sauf pour quelques malchanceux!
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[Ce qu’on croit comprendre :
Le printemps est le début de la saison des combats, lorsque les jeunes paysans ont terminé la récolte du pavot (opium, héroïne) et ont plus de temps de libre. La terre est plus molle ce qui facilite le creusage des bombes. À la télévision, on nous parle toujours de l’«Offensive du printemps» qui va venir et ou qui est arrivé. Et on nous montre (on est à la tv) les dizaines de chars d’assauts et de canons dirigés vers le désert où semble-t-il d’après ce qu’on nous dit, vont arriver les hordes de combattants. Comme les Mongols de Gengis Khan ou les Apaches ou Cheyennes de John Wayne. Ou de Mexicains vers Fort Alamo (encore avec John Wayne). Ou les Coréens du Nord. Communistes athées. Avec tous ces canons, ce sera une boucherie. Et aucune personne de moindrement raisonnables n’affrontera des chars et des canons avec des kalashnikovs. Mais ils ne viennent jamais ou pas comme ça. C’est une guérilla. Comme au Vietnam. En Irlande. Ou en Algérie. Ils regardent les convois passer et placent une bombe pour attraper le suivant. Récemment, on a asphalté des routes ce qui rend l’opération difficile. Il n’y a pas encore de nid de poules comme à Montréal. On utilise aussi des appareils pour bloquer les ondes radio ce qui empêche de faire sauter les bombes à longue distance avec des téléphones portables. Il faut donc utiliser un fil relié au détonateur, ce qui est moins discret. S’il reste des survivants, ils risquent de vous voir déguerpir. Ou une minuterie, ce qui est hasardeux. Ou une bombe qui saute au contact comme au Vietnam. Pendant, le jour, les soldats déterrent les bombes qu’on vient réenterrer la nuit. D’autres bombes. On dit qu’on en trouve 10%. Étant donné le nombre de morts et de blessés le nombre de bombes doit être hallucinant. Et le nombre de ceux qui les enterrent. On peut aussi utiliser une auto piégée. Un camion de crème glacée. Un vélo. Une femme ou une fillette avec une ceinture d’explosif. On va alors en ville faires sauter des postes de police.
Question : l’article nous parle benoitement des champs de pavots, des jeunes paysans qui ont terminé les récoltes. Il n’y a personne qui pense à détruire ces champs. Et question quizz. Une fois la récolte terminée, la culture, la récolte est aussi illégale là-bas qu’ici, que fait-on du sirop? On peut le traiter sur place mais comment l’exporter puisque toutes les frontières sont contrôlées par l’armée. Sur terre. Air. Satellite. Et on ne parle pas de cacher des condoms dans les vagin d’une touriste ou un kilo dans un pneu de secours mais de tonnes. Il en faut des ânes pour transporter tout ça. Ou des camions. Ou des avions. Ou des hélicoptères? ]
5486. YOUSSOU N'DOUR - MARLEY
DOUTEUR. PROFESSEUR BULLE. HENRY DICKSON
Chanson. Youssou N'Dour - Marley
mardi 21 juin 2011
5485
Photo. M. Abdullah. Reuters
http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/story/2011/06/20/pakistan-schoolgirl-kidnap.html
A girl identified by police as Sohana Jawed, eight, sits behind television microphones at a news conference in Lower Dir on Monday. She was kidnapped by Islamist militants who forced her to wear a suicide vest to attack security forces, police said.
http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/story/2011/06/20/pakistan-schoolgirl-kidnap.html
A girl identified by police as Sohana Jawed, eight, sits behind television microphones at a news conference in Lower Dir on Monday. She was kidnapped by Islamist militants who forced her to wear a suicide vest to attack security forces, police said.
5484. ANDRE GAGNON - ARIA A 03
DOUTEUR. PROFESSEUR BULLE. HENRY DICKSON
Chanson. Andre Gagnon - Aria A 03
5483. UNE FILLETTE A ÉTÉ ENLEVÉE PAR DES TERRORISTES POUR LA FORCER À PORTER UNE CEINTURE D'EXPLOSIF ET SE FAIRE SAUTER OU
OU UNE FILLETTE A ÉTÉ ENLEVÉE PAR DES MEMBRES DES SERVICES SECRETS PAKISTANAIS (QUI SUBVENTIONNENT LES TALIBANS AVEC L'ARABIE SAOUDITE) DANS LE BUT DE LUI FAIRE PEUR LUI FAISANT CROIRE QU'ELLE DOIT PORTER UNE CEINTURE D'EXPLOSIF. DANS LES 2 CAS, ELLE SE SAUVE À LA PREMIÈRE OCCASION ET S'EN VA BAVASSER À LA POLICE (MÊME DANS LE PREMIER CAS, LES «TORRISTES» N'ONT PAS SAISI L'OCCASION DE FAIRE SAUTER TOUT LE MONDE). IL Y A COMME PAR HASARD DES JOURNALISTES. CE QUI PERMET DE DÉMONTRER COMME LES TERRORISTES SONT MÉCHANTS. OU TRÈS STUPIDE. PREMIÈRE SITUATION. OU TRÈS MALADROIT. OU TRÈS ÉTRANGE. POUR UNE FOIS LE PROFESSEUR BULLE NE SAIT PAS QUOI PENSER.
PAKISTAN SCHOOLGIRL FORCED TO WEAR EXPLOSIVES
Jun 20, 2011
The Associated Press
http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/story/2011/06/20/pakistan-schoolgirl-kidnap.html
A nine-year-old girl who was kidnapped on her way to school and forced to wear a suicide bomb vest managed to escape her captors Monday as they directed her to attack a paramilitary checkpoint in northwest Pakistan, both she and police officials said.
Sohana Jawed, dressed in a blue and white school uniform, recounted her ordeal during a news conference with police in Lower Dir district.
Militants in Pakistan have often used young boys to carry out attacks, but the use of young girls is rare.
Timergarah, PakistanJawed, who is in Grade 3 , was on her way to school in the northwest city of Peshawar on Saturday when she was grabbed by two women and forced into a car carrying two men, she said during the news conference.
Police in Peshawar said they are still trying to confirm her story.
One of the kidnappers put a handkerchief on her mouth that knocked her unconscious, Jawed said in an interview with a local TV station.
When she woke up and started crying, one of the women gave her cookies laced with something that again knocked her out, Jawed said. The next time she woke up she found herself in a strange home, she said.
"This morning, the women and men forced me to put on the heavy jacket and put me in the car again,"
said Jawed.
The suicide vest contained almost nine kilograms of explosives and seemed to be designed to be set off remotely, Lower Dir police chief Salim Marwat told The Associated Press.
"Most likely it had to be detonated through a remote control since a minor was wearing it," he said.
SPRINTED TOWARD SOLDIERS
The kidnappers brought her to a checkpoint run by the paramilitary Frontier Corps located about 10 kilometres outside Timergarah, the main town in Lower Dir district.
When they got out of the car, she sprinted toward the paramilitary soldiers to show them what she was wearing, said Marwat.
"I got the chance to release my hand from the woman and run,"
said Jawed.
By the time the paramilitary soldiers realized what was happening, the kidnappers had escaped, said Marwat. Police have launched a search operation to find them, he said.
It's unclear why the kidnappers didn't detonate the suicide bomb vest after Jawed ran away. Marwat suggested they may have simply panicked and fled.
Asif Khan, the police chief in the area of Peshawar where Jawed said she lived and was kidnapped, Hashtnagri, said they haven't received a complaint of a missing girl and haven't identified a resident with her name.
Police in Lower Dir plan to ask Jawed additional questions after she is examined by a psychiatrist, who is helping her cope with the trauma of her ordeal.
"Police will try to get more information from her once she gets normalized,"
said Marwat.
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Douteur je doute. On ne doute jamais assez. Tout ce qu'on vous dit est faux. Tout ce que vous savez est faux. Parce que tout ce qu'on vous dit est faux. Mais il se peut qu'une partie de ce que savez soit vraie mais laquelle? Le professeur Bulle a parlé. Ou pensé quelque chose. Ou eut une émotion quelconque. Le professeur Bulle pense quelques fois par année donc il lui arrive d'être. Mais pas souvent!
PAKISTAN SCHOOLGIRL FORCED TO WEAR EXPLOSIVES
Jun 20, 2011
The Associated Press
http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/story/2011/06/20/pakistan-schoolgirl-kidnap.html
A nine-year-old girl who was kidnapped on her way to school and forced to wear a suicide bomb vest managed to escape her captors Monday as they directed her to attack a paramilitary checkpoint in northwest Pakistan, both she and police officials said.
Sohana Jawed, dressed in a blue and white school uniform, recounted her ordeal during a news conference with police in Lower Dir district.
Militants in Pakistan have often used young boys to carry out attacks, but the use of young girls is rare.
Timergarah, PakistanJawed, who is in Grade 3 , was on her way to school in the northwest city of Peshawar on Saturday when she was grabbed by two women and forced into a car carrying two men, she said during the news conference.
Police in Peshawar said they are still trying to confirm her story.
One of the kidnappers put a handkerchief on her mouth that knocked her unconscious, Jawed said in an interview with a local TV station.
When she woke up and started crying, one of the women gave her cookies laced with something that again knocked her out, Jawed said. The next time she woke up she found herself in a strange home, she said.
"This morning, the women and men forced me to put on the heavy jacket and put me in the car again,"
said Jawed.
The suicide vest contained almost nine kilograms of explosives and seemed to be designed to be set off remotely, Lower Dir police chief Salim Marwat told The Associated Press.
"Most likely it had to be detonated through a remote control since a minor was wearing it," he said.
SPRINTED TOWARD SOLDIERS
The kidnappers brought her to a checkpoint run by the paramilitary Frontier Corps located about 10 kilometres outside Timergarah, the main town in Lower Dir district.
When they got out of the car, she sprinted toward the paramilitary soldiers to show them what she was wearing, said Marwat.
"I got the chance to release my hand from the woman and run,"
said Jawed.
By the time the paramilitary soldiers realized what was happening, the kidnappers had escaped, said Marwat. Police have launched a search operation to find them, he said.
It's unclear why the kidnappers didn't detonate the suicide bomb vest after Jawed ran away. Marwat suggested they may have simply panicked and fled.
Asif Khan, the police chief in the area of Peshawar where Jawed said she lived and was kidnapped, Hashtnagri, said they haven't received a complaint of a missing girl and haven't identified a resident with her name.
Police in Lower Dir plan to ask Jawed additional questions after she is examined by a psychiatrist, who is helping her cope with the trauma of her ordeal.
"Police will try to get more information from her once she gets normalized,"
said Marwat.
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Douteur je doute. On ne doute jamais assez. Tout ce qu'on vous dit est faux. Tout ce que vous savez est faux. Parce que tout ce qu'on vous dit est faux. Mais il se peut qu'une partie de ce que savez soit vraie mais laquelle? Le professeur Bulle a parlé. Ou pensé quelque chose. Ou eut une émotion quelconque. Le professeur Bulle pense quelques fois par année donc il lui arrive d'être. Mais pas souvent!
5482. LU
War is the only goal of the state. War is the ways, means, and ends of all governments
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CANADIAN MILITARY REDEPLOYING SOLDIERS WITH PTSD. POST-TRAUMATIC STRESS DISORDER
Jun 14, 2011
CBC News
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/story/2011/06/14/ptsd-soldiers-redeploy.html
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CANADIAN MILITARY REDEPLOYING SOLDIERS WITH PTSD. POST-TRAUMATIC STRESS DISORDER
Jun 14, 2011
CBC News
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/story/2011/06/14/ptsd-soldiers-redeploy.html
5481
Photo. Umit Bektas. Reuters
Syrian boys shout at a refugee camp in the Turkish border town of Altinozu on June 17, 2011.
http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/story/2011/06/17/f-rfa-dunn-syrian-refugees.html
Syrian boys shout at a refugee camp in the Turkish border town of Altinozu on June 17, 2011.
http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/story/2011/06/17/f-rfa-dunn-syrian-refugees.html
5480. LU
Invading countries and murdering people you don't even know will do that to you.
If you're human
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CANADIAN MILITARY REDEPLOYING SOLDIERS WITH PTSD. POST-TRAUMATIC STRESS DISORDER
Jun 14, 2011
CBC News
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/story/2011/06/14/ptsd-soldiers-redeploy.html
If you're human
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CANADIAN MILITARY REDEPLOYING SOLDIERS WITH PTSD. POST-TRAUMATIC STRESS DISORDER
Jun 14, 2011
CBC News
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/story/2011/06/14/ptsd-soldiers-redeploy.html
5479
Image. http://medias.jeuxonline.info/war/upload/screenshoots/20061122Guerrierdetzeentch.jpg
http://www.jeuxonline.info/actualite/12847/presentation-chaos-deux-premieres-classes-gamespy
RUNE OF MAGIC
LANDS OF DISPAIR
LE GUERRIER DE TZEENTCH :
Il s’agit d’un guerrier du Chaos qui s’est offert à la cause de Tzeentch. Il a décidé qui lui et lui seul devait devenir la prime puissance de la planète. Carapaçonné dans son armure, il a l’apparence d’une énorme « Tank » armé d’une épée plus grande encore. Son armure est ornée des symboles de Tzeentch, l’œil, la couleur bleue et le feu éternel. Dans le style qu’affectionne son dieu, il porte également des gravures rappelant les plumes, les serres et les becs acérés. Ce qui est remarquable avec le dessin de cette armure c’est la pertinence avec laquelle il reproduit ce que nous avons créé en jeu. Et tenez-vous bien, ce n’est même pas une des armures les plus puissantes du jeu. N’est-ce pas merveilleux ?
Le personnage que vous avez sous les yeux est un élu. Quelqu’un de totalement acquis à Tzeentch le seigneur du changement et au Chaos. Il massacrera quiconque se dressera sur sa route vers le pouvoir. Qu’il s’agisse d’un ennemi, de quelqu’un de son propre camp ou de quiconque proche du sommet de la pyramide. Telle est la voie du Chaos. Les guerriers du chaos combattront avec leurs grandes épées les pieds fermement ancrés au sol, il adviendra même un moment où ils combattront encore plus férocement… sans plus avoir les pieds qui touchent le sol…
http://www.jeuxonline.info/actualite/12847/presentation-chaos-deux-premieres-classes-gamespy
RUNE OF MAGIC
LANDS OF DISPAIR
LE GUERRIER DE TZEENTCH :
Il s’agit d’un guerrier du Chaos qui s’est offert à la cause de Tzeentch. Il a décidé qui lui et lui seul devait devenir la prime puissance de la planète. Carapaçonné dans son armure, il a l’apparence d’une énorme « Tank » armé d’une épée plus grande encore. Son armure est ornée des symboles de Tzeentch, l’œil, la couleur bleue et le feu éternel. Dans le style qu’affectionne son dieu, il porte également des gravures rappelant les plumes, les serres et les becs acérés. Ce qui est remarquable avec le dessin de cette armure c’est la pertinence avec laquelle il reproduit ce que nous avons créé en jeu. Et tenez-vous bien, ce n’est même pas une des armures les plus puissantes du jeu. N’est-ce pas merveilleux ?
Le personnage que vous avez sous les yeux est un élu. Quelqu’un de totalement acquis à Tzeentch le seigneur du changement et au Chaos. Il massacrera quiconque se dressera sur sa route vers le pouvoir. Qu’il s’agisse d’un ennemi, de quelqu’un de son propre camp ou de quiconque proche du sommet de la pyramide. Telle est la voie du Chaos. Les guerriers du chaos combattront avec leurs grandes épées les pieds fermement ancrés au sol, il adviendra même un moment où ils combattront encore plus férocement… sans plus avoir les pieds qui touchent le sol…
5478. ANDRÉ GAGNON - UN PIANO SUR LA MER
DOUTEUR. PROFESSEUR BULLE. HENRY DICKSON
Chanson. André Gagnon - Un Piano Sur La Mer
5477. POUR ENCOURAGER LES TROUPES ET LES NOUVELLES RECRUES, ON AFFIRME QUE L'ARMÉE LYBIENNE (LES MAUVAIS) FONT DES VIOLS COLLECTIFS.
Using rape to justify war is like a parking ticket for jaywalking..
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CANADIAN MILITARY REDEPLOYING SOLDIERS WITH PTSD. POST-TRAUMATIC STRESS DISORDER
Jun 14, 2011
CBC News
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/story/2011/06/14/ptsd-soldiers-redeploy.html
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CANADIAN MILITARY REDEPLOYING SOLDIERS WITH PTSD. POST-TRAUMATIC STRESS DISORDER
Jun 14, 2011
CBC News
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/story/2011/06/14/ptsd-soldiers-redeploy.html
5476. LU
PTSD is side effect of war OF terror.
Stop making wars on behalf of US crumbling empire.
Let our soldiers defend our long, long southern borders.
Who else would invade us?.
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CANADIAN MILITARY REDEPLOYING SOLDIERS WITH PTSD. POST-TRAUMATIC STRESS DISORDER
Jun 14, 2011
CBC News
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/story/2011/06/14/ptsd-soldiers-redeploy.html
Stop making wars on behalf of US crumbling empire.
Let our soldiers defend our long, long southern borders.
Who else would invade us?.
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CANADIAN MILITARY REDEPLOYING SOLDIERS WITH PTSD. POST-TRAUMATIC STRESS DISORDER
Jun 14, 2011
CBC News
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/story/2011/06/14/ptsd-soldiers-redeploy.html
5475. COMMENTAIRES DU PEUPLE
1
And the mission in Libya has been extended. Ever get the feeling that those in charge are playing a game they don't understand?
No mention of social services, just jets and prisons.
Custer was mentioned as a presidential candidate until he led his own mission.
Notice how politicians learned from that mistake?
20% of the Conservative candidates avoided all candidates meetings in the last campaign.
It worked. Great strategy Harper.
Say little, do less..
2
You think it is bad now just wait till the Harper Regime puts boots on the ground in Libya within next 2-3 months as well as having to redeploy combat troops now scheduled to pull-out in next weeks, back into Afghanistnam when the RAJ soon sees and realizes it is still unable to regain control there.
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CANADIAN MILITARY REDEPLOYING SOLDIERS WITH PTSD. POST-TRAUMATIC STRESS DISORDER
Jun 14, 2011
CBC News
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/story/2011/06/14/ptsd-soldiers-redeploy.html
And the mission in Libya has been extended. Ever get the feeling that those in charge are playing a game they don't understand?
No mention of social services, just jets and prisons.
Custer was mentioned as a presidential candidate until he led his own mission.
Notice how politicians learned from that mistake?
20% of the Conservative candidates avoided all candidates meetings in the last campaign.
It worked. Great strategy Harper.
Say little, do less..
2
You think it is bad now just wait till the Harper Regime puts boots on the ground in Libya within next 2-3 months as well as having to redeploy combat troops now scheduled to pull-out in next weeks, back into Afghanistnam when the RAJ soon sees and realizes it is still unable to regain control there.
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CANADIAN MILITARY REDEPLOYING SOLDIERS WITH PTSD. POST-TRAUMATIC STRESS DISORDER
Jun 14, 2011
CBC News
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/story/2011/06/14/ptsd-soldiers-redeploy.html
5474
The Conservative government appears to be on a track to be a "tough guy" in the world and thus we can reasonably expect that they will get Canada embroiled in other military adventures in the future. (...)
Perhaps with a majority mandate, the Cons would seriously consider a return to mandatory military service to feed the war machine? .
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CANADIAN MILITARY REDEPLOYING SOLDIERS WITH PTSD. POST-TRAUMATIC STRESS DISORDER
Jun 14, 2011
CBC News
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/story/2011/06/14/ptsd-soldiers-redeploy.html
Perhaps with a majority mandate, the Cons would seriously consider a return to mandatory military service to feed the war machine? .
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CANADIAN MILITARY REDEPLOYING SOLDIERS WITH PTSD. POST-TRAUMATIC STRESS DISORDER
Jun 14, 2011
CBC News
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/story/2011/06/14/ptsd-soldiers-redeploy.html
5472. COMMENTAIRES DU PEUPLE
1
CON policy: Use 'em, abuse 'em, reuse 'em & lose 'em..
2
The Neocon Chickenhawks in Harper's government must think they're playing Call of Duty.
Unfortunately this isn't a game.
Never send a neocon run a war. They do it on the cheap, try to enrich their friends and always screw it up.
(and never ever put themselves in harms way). .
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CANADIAN MILITARY REDEPLOYING SOLDIERS WITH PTSD. POST-TRAUMATIC STRESS DISORDER
Jun 14, 2011
CBC News
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/story/2011/06/14/ptsd-soldiers-redeploy.html
CON policy: Use 'em, abuse 'em, reuse 'em & lose 'em..
2
The Neocon Chickenhawks in Harper's government must think they're playing Call of Duty.
Unfortunately this isn't a game.
Never send a neocon run a war. They do it on the cheap, try to enrich their friends and always screw it up.
(and never ever put themselves in harms way). .
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CANADIAN MILITARY REDEPLOYING SOLDIERS WITH PTSD. POST-TRAUMATIC STRESS DISORDER
Jun 14, 2011
CBC News
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/story/2011/06/14/ptsd-soldiers-redeploy.html
5471. LU
At present, under The New Veteran's Charter, the maximum payout benefit for a work related injury in the Canadian forces is $250,000 adjusted for inflation since 2006.
And this amount cannot be exceeded for the entire body.
( if a person has multiple injuries, with each totalling more than $250,000 value, the amount is capped at 250,000 adjusted for inflation)
While other benefits are available, the small lump-sum payment like this is as much a reason for people to stay in the uniform and attempt to suck it up for as long a possible.
The maximum lump-sum (about 280,000 today) is nothing more than a very nice golden handshake at the time of normal retirement.
Prior to the New Veterans Charter in 2006, each injury was assessed on it's own merit and monthly medical compensation was provided.
There was NO Full Body cap..
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CANADIAN MILITARY REDEPLOYING SOLDIERS WITH PTSD. POST-TRAUMATIC STRESS DISORDER
Jun 14, 2011
CBC News
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/story/2011/06/14/ptsd-soldiers-redeploy.html
And this amount cannot be exceeded for the entire body.
( if a person has multiple injuries, with each totalling more than $250,000 value, the amount is capped at 250,000 adjusted for inflation)
While other benefits are available, the small lump-sum payment like this is as much a reason for people to stay in the uniform and attempt to suck it up for as long a possible.
The maximum lump-sum (about 280,000 today) is nothing more than a very nice golden handshake at the time of normal retirement.
Prior to the New Veterans Charter in 2006, each injury was assessed on it's own merit and monthly medical compensation was provided.
There was NO Full Body cap..
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CANADIAN MILITARY REDEPLOYING SOLDIERS WITH PTSD. POST-TRAUMATIC STRESS DISORDER
Jun 14, 2011
CBC News
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/story/2011/06/14/ptsd-soldiers-redeploy.html
5470. CLAUDE LÉVEILLÉE + ANDRÉ GAGNON - POISSON (2 pianos)
DOUTEUR. PROFESSEUR BULLE. HENRY DICKSON
Chanson. Claude Léveillée + André Gagnon - Poisson
samedi 18 juin 2011
5469
Image. http://images.ados.fr/bd-manga/photo/hd/1565296156/guerriers-divers/guerrier-1637454102.jpg
http://club.ados.fr/dinjelai/guerriers-divers-3054/photo/guerrier-1637454.html
LE MONDE DE DUYELAI
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Douteur je doute. On ne doute jamais assez. Tout ce qu'on vous dit est faux. Tout ce que vous savez est faux. Parce que tout ce qu'on vous dit est faux. Mais il se peut qu'une partie de ce que savez soit vraie mais laquelle? Le professeur Bulle a parlé. Ou pensé quelque chose. Ou eut une émotion quelconque. Le professeur Bulle pense quelques fois par année donc il lui arrive d'être. Mais pas souvent!
http://club.ados.fr/dinjelai/guerriers-divers-3054/photo/guerrier-1637454.html
LE MONDE DE DUYELAI
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Douteur je doute. On ne doute jamais assez. Tout ce qu'on vous dit est faux. Tout ce que vous savez est faux. Parce que tout ce qu'on vous dit est faux. Mais il se peut qu'une partie de ce que savez soit vraie mais laquelle? Le professeur Bulle a parlé. Ou pensé quelque chose. Ou eut une émotion quelconque. Le professeur Bulle pense quelques fois par année donc il lui arrive d'être. Mais pas souvent!
5468. BLUE MAN GROUP - DRUMBONE
DOUTEUR. PROFESSEUR BULLE. HENRY DICKSON
Chanson. Blue Man Group - Drumbone
5467. LU
What stress does bombing civilian populations cause the victims?
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CANADIAN MILITARY REDEPLOYING SOLDIERS WITH PTSD. POST-TRAUMATIC STRESS DISORDER
Jun 14, 2011
CBC News
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/story/2011/06/14/ptsd-soldiers-redeploy.html
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CANADIAN MILITARY REDEPLOYING SOLDIERS WITH PTSD. POST-TRAUMATIC STRESS DISORDER
Jun 14, 2011
CBC News
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/story/2011/06/14/ptsd-soldiers-redeploy.html
5466. LU
Because our soldiers are merely the pawns in the big game of chess our leaders are playing. You sacrifice your pawns for the sake of the king..
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CANADIAN MILITARY REDEPLOYING SOLDIERS WITH PTSD. POST-TRAUMATIC STRESS DISORDER
Jun 14, 2011
CBC News
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/story/2011/06/14/ptsd-soldiers-redeploy.html
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CANADIAN MILITARY REDEPLOYING SOLDIERS WITH PTSD. POST-TRAUMATIC STRESS DISORDER
Jun 14, 2011
CBC News
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/story/2011/06/14/ptsd-soldiers-redeploy.html
5465. IL EST TRÈS FACILE DE MANIPULER LES ENFANTS PUISQU'ON RÉUSSIT SI BIEN AVEC LES ADULTES
Photo. Mustafa Ozer. AFP. Getty
http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/photos/676#igImgId_9387
Syrian children at the Boynuyogun Turkish Red Crescent camp in Hatay, near the Syrian border, on June 12. Around 5,000 people have fled Syria.
http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/photos/676#igImgId_9387
Syrian children at the Boynuyogun Turkish Red Crescent camp in Hatay, near the Syrian border, on June 12. Around 5,000 people have fled Syria.
5464. LU
More good reading for any young person considering a military career.
I served 24 years and this does not surprise me one little bit!
Take note, young ones. This could be you!
The military CAN be a great career; I came out relatively unscathed but, if you sign up, always remember;
You are NOT a human being.
You are a tool, a device, a resource to be used up at the pleasure and discretion of your superiors
then thrown away when you break.
And the ones who break you will never have to answer for it.
The taxpayer may one day have to pay for you but your superiors never will.
Some people in the system might care about you but others could care less if you die at their feet.
They'd just kick you to the curb and go get another fresh piece of meat.
I once saw a guy on crutches and with a back brace shipped out on exercise and made to stand and scrub pots all day because he couldn't do his regular duties.
All because of pure spite and vindictiveness on the part of his CO and a complete lack of spine on the part of the Doc.
He lasted about 4 days then had to be carried back to base on a stretcher.
He suffered for months and the CO and the Doc were eventually promoted.
I'm proud of my service but I'm happy to be free of that meat grinder as well..
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CANADIAN MILITARY REDEPLOYING SOLDIERS WITH PTSD. POST-TRAUMATIC STRESS DISORDER
Jun 14, 2011
CBC News
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/story/2011/06/14/ptsd-soldiers-redeploy.html
I served 24 years and this does not surprise me one little bit!
Take note, young ones. This could be you!
The military CAN be a great career; I came out relatively unscathed but, if you sign up, always remember;
You are NOT a human being.
You are a tool, a device, a resource to be used up at the pleasure and discretion of your superiors
then thrown away when you break.
And the ones who break you will never have to answer for it.
The taxpayer may one day have to pay for you but your superiors never will.
Some people in the system might care about you but others could care less if you die at their feet.
They'd just kick you to the curb and go get another fresh piece of meat.
I once saw a guy on crutches and with a back brace shipped out on exercise and made to stand and scrub pots all day because he couldn't do his regular duties.
All because of pure spite and vindictiveness on the part of his CO and a complete lack of spine on the part of the Doc.
He lasted about 4 days then had to be carried back to base on a stretcher.
He suffered for months and the CO and the Doc were eventually promoted.
I'm proud of my service but I'm happy to be free of that meat grinder as well..
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CANADIAN MILITARY REDEPLOYING SOLDIERS WITH PTSD. POST-TRAUMATIC STRESS DISORDER
Jun 14, 2011
CBC News
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/story/2011/06/14/ptsd-soldiers-redeploy.html
5463. LU
1
War is a Traumatic Stress Situation.
Anyone personally involved with war "first hand" in combat suffers from post traumatic stress disorder. How can anyone believe otherwise?
Whether on the recieving end or the delivering end of a battle one would not be human if one was not traumatized by battle.
2
Shell shock, as it was once known, holds on to its victims for life.
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CANADIAN MILITARY REDEPLOYING SOLDIERS WITH PTSD. POST-TRAUMATIC STRESS DISORDER
Jun 14, 2011
CBC News
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/story/2011/06/14/ptsd-soldiers-redeploy.html
War is a Traumatic Stress Situation.
Anyone personally involved with war "first hand" in combat suffers from post traumatic stress disorder. How can anyone believe otherwise?
Whether on the recieving end or the delivering end of a battle one would not be human if one was not traumatized by battle.
2
Shell shock, as it was once known, holds on to its victims for life.
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CANADIAN MILITARY REDEPLOYING SOLDIERS WITH PTSD. POST-TRAUMATIC STRESS DISORDER
Jun 14, 2011
CBC News
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/story/2011/06/14/ptsd-soldiers-redeploy.html
5462. TANT QU'ELLE BOUGE ET PEUT TENIR UN FUSIL LA CHAIR À CANON EST CONSIDÉRÉE EN BON ÉTAT DE MARCHE (SYNONYME DE SANTÉ SUFFISANTE DANS LES FORCES).
CANADIAN MILITARY REDEPLOYING SOLDIERS WITH PTSD. POST-TRAUMATIC STRESS DISORDER
Jun 14, 2011
CBC News
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/story/2011/06/14/ptsd-soldiers-redeploy.html
A former elite soldier with the Canadian Forces says post-traumatic stress disorder caused him to descend into what he describes as his "train wreck years."
Steve Lively says he ballooned to 240 pounds, grew his hair down to his lower back and suffered from severe alcohol and drug addiction.
"It was self-medication to deal with what I was going through,"
said Lively, 46, who suffered from post-traumatic stress disorder (PTSD) after serving on a number of tours, including to Congo, Uganda and Rwanda.
He keeps a picture of himself from that time on the wall of his office: it's a reminder of a low he never wants to descend back into.
His PTSD became worse with each deployment and eventually Lively left the military. He now works for National Defence and speaks to soldiers about PTSD.
Cases like Lively's have raised questions about a little-known Canadian Forces policy of redeploying soldiers diagnosed with the anxiety disorder caused by experiencing a traumatic event.
Ottawa psychologist Ken Welburn, who counts current and former soldiers among his clients, used to help soldiers redeploy after suffering from post-traumatic stress disorder, but now believes that was a mistake.
"I think that soldiers with PTSD should not be re-deployed into a war zone,"
said Welburn, director of the Ottawa Anxiety and Trauma Clinic.
"If you go back on another deployment it's like going into the sun after a bad sunburn. You are going to pay for it."
SOLDIERS TREATED BEFORE REDEPLOYMENT
The military won't reveal how many soldiers with PTSD that it has sent back to the frontlines, but the practice has been happening during its 10-year mission in Afghanistan.
A VIRTUAL REALITY
Soldiers, often more comfortable with video games than a psychiatrist's couch, are benefiting from a new treatment for post-traumatic stress disorder. But it's only available south of the border.
Nearly 50 hospitals in the U.S. offer virtual reality (VR) therapy.
The system recreates a patient's traumatic memory, walking them through the scene repeatedly to lessen panic.
"You think, 'This is a video game. Why am I doing this? This is dumb,'"
U.S. soldier Jason Skinner said about his initial reaction. But he now credits the system with saving him from a breakdown after serving in Iraq.
Dr. Robert McLay, research director of mental health services at San Diego's Naval Medical Center, says 75 per cent of soldiers treated there with VR therapy showed significant improvement.
In Canada, soldiers receive traditional exposure therapy — repeatedly talking about the upsetting incident.
Dr. Rakesh Jetly, the Canadian Forces' senior mental health adviser, said there's insufficient research on VR therapy.
"We have a responsibility to our soldiers and to the taxpayers to provide evidence-based practices,"
THE DOCTOR SAID.
The Canadian Forces' senior mental health adviser, Dr. Rakesh Jetly, says the military ensures soldiers get treatment and have time to heal before redeployment.
Before a Canadian Forces member who suffered from PTSD is sent on a tour, they must successfully complete six to nine months of predeployment training.
"It's a good news story,"
said Jetly.
"We're not sending people that are ill, that are having nightmares, that can't sleep, and you know drafting them and throwing them on the back of a plane and sending them to war."
Even though Lively recalls coming home after his tour in Rwanda following the genocide to find himself terrified of dangers lurking around every corner of his Ottawa neighbourhood, he's circumspect about the practice of redeploying soldiers who have suffered from PTSD.
Some soldiers find returning to the battlefield a form of exposure therapy by facing their demon and others only suffered a mild form of PTSD and feel ready to return, he says,
"And then there are the few cases where soldiers have been diagnosed and they've gone back on mission, and unfortunately something has happened where it's retriggered it, and it's only exacerbated the situation and made it worse,"
said Lively.
"But there's no real black and white answer to it, because we don't know the true number of soldiers that have been diagnosed, that are going back into theatre,"
said Lively.
FEAR BEING KICKED OUT OF ARMY
The controversial practice of redeploying soldiers who suffered from PTSD partly stems from a decades-old military rule called Universality of Service.
It states that members of the Forces must be fit or capable to deploy on operations.
YOUR NEWS
Are you a member of a military family affected by PTSD? Share your story.
The rule has created a catch-22 that prevents some soldiers from admitting they are sick.
"They're afraid they will be pushed out of the military … they'll be deemed medically unfit and just non-deployable,"
says Lively.
American Larry Syverson has been fighting to draw attention to the practice of redeploying soldiers who suffered from PTSD by the U.S. army.
His son, Bryce, served in Iraq then suffered a breakdown and ended up in an American military hospital on suicide watch.
"I figured because of the problems … he couldn't have a gun,"
said Syverson.
"I thought his deployment would be over."
Days after Bryce told doctors he was able to be around his gun without wanting to use it on himself,
he was sent back into combat,
says Syverson.
"I was like, 'This is crazy! You know he was just under suicide watch?'" r
ecalls Syverson.
"PTSD is not something that just goes away,"
says Syverson.
"You have it for the rest of your life.
And to think that,
'Oh well, they're doing OK now we'll give 'em a gun, we'll send 'em back,'
who knows when that's gonna happen that it comes back. And it will come back."
PTSD MAY SKYROCKET
The Canadian Forces says such an extreme case wouldn't happen here because Canada only sends back those soldiers who are cured of PTSD.
"The point is that there are soldiers in fact that think they're ready and I will say, 'No, no you're not,'"
says Jetly.
Civilian rule of thumb, says Jetly, is that one-third of people recover fully from PTSD, meaning they are no longer symptomatic.
TIPS?
Symptoms can include flashbacks, difficulty sleeping, feeling emotionally numb, memory troubles, avoiding activities once enjoyed, irritability or anger and self-destructive behaviour.
Lively suspects that the numbers of soldiers who are diagnosed with post-traumatic stress disorder will skyrocket in the next few years as Canada winds down its combat operations in Afghanistan.
"Now they'll have time to actually sit back and reflect on exactly what it is that they're going through," said Lively.
"They're not deploying so it's more time to actually consider what's going wrong in their lives.
"We are seeing the tip of the iceberg right now."
Jun 14, 2011
CBC News
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/story/2011/06/14/ptsd-soldiers-redeploy.html
A former elite soldier with the Canadian Forces says post-traumatic stress disorder caused him to descend into what he describes as his "train wreck years."
Steve Lively says he ballooned to 240 pounds, grew his hair down to his lower back and suffered from severe alcohol and drug addiction.
"It was self-medication to deal with what I was going through,"
said Lively, 46, who suffered from post-traumatic stress disorder (PTSD) after serving on a number of tours, including to Congo, Uganda and Rwanda.
He keeps a picture of himself from that time on the wall of his office: it's a reminder of a low he never wants to descend back into.
His PTSD became worse with each deployment and eventually Lively left the military. He now works for National Defence and speaks to soldiers about PTSD.
Cases like Lively's have raised questions about a little-known Canadian Forces policy of redeploying soldiers diagnosed with the anxiety disorder caused by experiencing a traumatic event.
Ottawa psychologist Ken Welburn, who counts current and former soldiers among his clients, used to help soldiers redeploy after suffering from post-traumatic stress disorder, but now believes that was a mistake.
"I think that soldiers with PTSD should not be re-deployed into a war zone,"
said Welburn, director of the Ottawa Anxiety and Trauma Clinic.
"If you go back on another deployment it's like going into the sun after a bad sunburn. You are going to pay for it."
SOLDIERS TREATED BEFORE REDEPLOYMENT
The military won't reveal how many soldiers with PTSD that it has sent back to the frontlines, but the practice has been happening during its 10-year mission in Afghanistan.
A VIRTUAL REALITY
Soldiers, often more comfortable with video games than a psychiatrist's couch, are benefiting from a new treatment for post-traumatic stress disorder. But it's only available south of the border.
Nearly 50 hospitals in the U.S. offer virtual reality (VR) therapy.
The system recreates a patient's traumatic memory, walking them through the scene repeatedly to lessen panic.
"You think, 'This is a video game. Why am I doing this? This is dumb,'"
U.S. soldier Jason Skinner said about his initial reaction. But he now credits the system with saving him from a breakdown after serving in Iraq.
Dr. Robert McLay, research director of mental health services at San Diego's Naval Medical Center, says 75 per cent of soldiers treated there with VR therapy showed significant improvement.
In Canada, soldiers receive traditional exposure therapy — repeatedly talking about the upsetting incident.
Dr. Rakesh Jetly, the Canadian Forces' senior mental health adviser, said there's insufficient research on VR therapy.
"We have a responsibility to our soldiers and to the taxpayers to provide evidence-based practices,"
THE DOCTOR SAID.
The Canadian Forces' senior mental health adviser, Dr. Rakesh Jetly, says the military ensures soldiers get treatment and have time to heal before redeployment.
Before a Canadian Forces member who suffered from PTSD is sent on a tour, they must successfully complete six to nine months of predeployment training.
"It's a good news story,"
said Jetly.
"We're not sending people that are ill, that are having nightmares, that can't sleep, and you know drafting them and throwing them on the back of a plane and sending them to war."
Even though Lively recalls coming home after his tour in Rwanda following the genocide to find himself terrified of dangers lurking around every corner of his Ottawa neighbourhood, he's circumspect about the practice of redeploying soldiers who have suffered from PTSD.
Some soldiers find returning to the battlefield a form of exposure therapy by facing their demon and others only suffered a mild form of PTSD and feel ready to return, he says,
"And then there are the few cases where soldiers have been diagnosed and they've gone back on mission, and unfortunately something has happened where it's retriggered it, and it's only exacerbated the situation and made it worse,"
said Lively.
"But there's no real black and white answer to it, because we don't know the true number of soldiers that have been diagnosed, that are going back into theatre,"
said Lively.
FEAR BEING KICKED OUT OF ARMY
The controversial practice of redeploying soldiers who suffered from PTSD partly stems from a decades-old military rule called Universality of Service.
It states that members of the Forces must be fit or capable to deploy on operations.
YOUR NEWS
Are you a member of a military family affected by PTSD? Share your story.
The rule has created a catch-22 that prevents some soldiers from admitting they are sick.
"They're afraid they will be pushed out of the military … they'll be deemed medically unfit and just non-deployable,"
says Lively.
American Larry Syverson has been fighting to draw attention to the practice of redeploying soldiers who suffered from PTSD by the U.S. army.
His son, Bryce, served in Iraq then suffered a breakdown and ended up in an American military hospital on suicide watch.
"I figured because of the problems … he couldn't have a gun,"
said Syverson.
"I thought his deployment would be over."
Days after Bryce told doctors he was able to be around his gun without wanting to use it on himself,
he was sent back into combat,
says Syverson.
"I was like, 'This is crazy! You know he was just under suicide watch?'" r
ecalls Syverson.
"PTSD is not something that just goes away,"
says Syverson.
"You have it for the rest of your life.
And to think that,
'Oh well, they're doing OK now we'll give 'em a gun, we'll send 'em back,'
who knows when that's gonna happen that it comes back. And it will come back."
PTSD MAY SKYROCKET
The Canadian Forces says such an extreme case wouldn't happen here because Canada only sends back those soldiers who are cured of PTSD.
"The point is that there are soldiers in fact that think they're ready and I will say, 'No, no you're not,'"
says Jetly.
Civilian rule of thumb, says Jetly, is that one-third of people recover fully from PTSD, meaning they are no longer symptomatic.
TIPS?
Symptoms can include flashbacks, difficulty sleeping, feeling emotionally numb, memory troubles, avoiding activities once enjoyed, irritability or anger and self-destructive behaviour.
Lively suspects that the numbers of soldiers who are diagnosed with post-traumatic stress disorder will skyrocket in the next few years as Canada winds down its combat operations in Afghanistan.
"Now they'll have time to actually sit back and reflect on exactly what it is that they're going through," said Lively.
"They're not deploying so it's more time to actually consider what's going wrong in their lives.
"We are seeing the tip of the iceberg right now."
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vendredi 17 juin 2011
5461. IL N'Y A PAS D'ÂGE POUR ENBRIGADER LES ENFANTS.
MESSAGE SUBLIMINAL. ENVAHISSEZ LA SYRIE! LIBÉREZ-NOUS! ET METTEZ UN AUTRE DICTATEUR À LA PLACE DU PRÉCÉDENT QUI, CETTE FOIS, SERA UN BON DICTATEUR CAR IL AIMERA LES USA ET ISRAËL. NOUS SOMMES DES ENFANTS ET NOUS NE POUVONS PAS MENTIR. IL Y A MÊME UNE PETITE FILLE QUI, ON LE SAIT, NE MENTENT JAMAIS.
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http://www.radio-canada.ca/nouvelles/International/2011/06/17/001-syrie-vendredi-manifs.shtml
Un jeune Syrien réfugié en Turquie fait le signe de la victoire.
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Douteur je doute. On ne doute jamais assez. Tout ce qu'on vous dit est faux. Tout ce que vous savez est faux. Parce que tout ce qu'on vous dit est faux. Mais il se peut qu'une partie de ce que savez soit vraie mais laquelle? Le professeur Bulle a parlé. Ou pensé quelque chose. Ou eut une émotion quelconque. Le professeur Bulle pense quelques fois par année donc il lui arrive d'être. Mais pas souvent!
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http://www.radio-canada.ca/nouvelles/International/2011/06/17/001-syrie-vendredi-manifs.shtml
Un jeune Syrien réfugié en Turquie fait le signe de la victoire.
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Douteur je doute. On ne doute jamais assez. Tout ce qu'on vous dit est faux. Tout ce que vous savez est faux. Parce que tout ce qu'on vous dit est faux. Mais il se peut qu'une partie de ce que savez soit vraie mais laquelle? Le professeur Bulle a parlé. Ou pensé quelque chose. Ou eut une émotion quelconque. Le professeur Bulle pense quelques fois par année donc il lui arrive d'être. Mais pas souvent!
5460. BLUEMAN GROUP
DOUTEUR. PROFESSEUR BULLE. HENRY DICKSON
Chanson. Blueman Group
mercredi 15 juin 2011
5459. À PARTIR DE QUEL ÂGE PEUT- ON FAIRE LA GUERRE AVEC SÉRIEUX ?
5458. LU
My son is 14 and can't wait to join the forces.
I see it as an honorable job. Dangerous, yes, but so is his father's job as a firefighter (who by the way, spent 11 years in the infantry himself) So is the job of a police officer. But they are all honorable jobs, those who SERVE to protect us..
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CANADIAN MILITARY REDEPLOYING SOLDIERS WITH PTSD. POST-TRAUMATIC STRESS DISORDER
Jun 14, 2011
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http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/story/2011/06/14/ptsd-soldiers-redeploy.html
I see it as an honorable job. Dangerous, yes, but so is his father's job as a firefighter (who by the way, spent 11 years in the infantry himself) So is the job of a police officer. But they are all honorable jobs, those who SERVE to protect us..
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Jun 14, 2011
CBC News
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/story/2011/06/14/ptsd-soldiers-redeploy.html
5457. LU
We need an army like the movie "Soldier" with Kurt Russel. Those guys were hard as nails and had been since they were eight years old.
[Le service militaire romains durait 20 ans.]
Our military is full of people who joined becuase they had no skills and this was literally the EASIEST way to make a good salary and be able to retire.
I have a hard time standing by our military when the only battles they fight are geo-political, or outside you local nightclub.
We have them brainwashed to think they are invincible and the reality that no one is can be a shocker, especially when it was your doctorine.
Now when some country comes knocking at our door looking to invade, sign me up, I guaruntee I will have no remorse for doing what is morally right.
Don't want to paint everyone with one brush here, but this may be a situation where it's neccesary.
Bring our soldiers home, and weed out the weak.
Leave only the jarheads and train them up for an invasion on our soil.
No more PTSD, and military budget is axed considerably.
Thats your daily thought outside the box..
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Jun 14, 2011
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http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/story/2011/06/14/ptsd-soldiers-redeploy.html
[Le service militaire romains durait 20 ans.]
Our military is full of people who joined becuase they had no skills and this was literally the EASIEST way to make a good salary and be able to retire.
I have a hard time standing by our military when the only battles they fight are geo-political, or outside you local nightclub.
We have them brainwashed to think they are invincible and the reality that no one is can be a shocker, especially when it was your doctorine.
Now when some country comes knocking at our door looking to invade, sign me up, I guaruntee I will have no remorse for doing what is morally right.
Don't want to paint everyone with one brush here, but this may be a situation where it's neccesary.
Bring our soldiers home, and weed out the weak.
Leave only the jarheads and train them up for an invasion on our soil.
No more PTSD, and military budget is axed considerably.
Thats your daily thought outside the box..
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CANADIAN MILITARY REDEPLOYING SOLDIERS WITH PTSD. POST-TRAUMATIC STRESS DISORDER
Jun 14, 2011
CBC News
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/story/2011/06/14/ptsd-soldiers-redeploy.html
5456. LU
1
If an IED blows your leg off, you get assistance and support.
If overwhelming stress and trauma blows your mind and emotional balance off, you're supposed to suck it up and hide it.
2
One remembers vividly traumatic incidents in ones life.
Unless the trauma is so great that your own brain blacks it out.
3
If someone is reticent about going to a battlefield they are quite sane
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CANADIAN MILITARY REDEPLOYING SOLDIERS WITH PTSD. POST-TRAUMATIC STRESS DISORDER
Jun 14, 2011
CBC News
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/story/2011/06/14/ptsd-soldiers-redeploy.html
If an IED blows your leg off, you get assistance and support.
If overwhelming stress and trauma blows your mind and emotional balance off, you're supposed to suck it up and hide it.
2
One remembers vividly traumatic incidents in ones life.
Unless the trauma is so great that your own brain blacks it out.
3
If someone is reticent about going to a battlefield they are quite sane
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Jun 14, 2011
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http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/story/2011/06/14/ptsd-soldiers-redeploy.html
5455. LU
You must truly have a sad life when nothing in it is worth fighting for.
(...)
Oh well it is tough to explain to someone with no real sense of honour. Your sentence summed you up in 15 words, good job. Somehow I hope one day you will eat those words..
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Jun 14, 2011
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(...)
Oh well it is tough to explain to someone with no real sense of honour. Your sentence summed you up in 15 words, good job. Somehow I hope one day you will eat those words..
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Jun 14, 2011
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5453. QUELQUES CITATIONS DE PERSONNES CÉLÈBRES POUR ÉLEVER L’ESPRIT ET REGARDER FROIDEMENT NOTRE PIERRE TOMBALE.
«People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf.»
George Orwell
Who else is going to protect us?
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« Freedom makes a huge requirement of every human being. With freedom comes responsibility. For the person who is unwilling to grow up, the person who does not want to carry is own weight, this is a frightening prospect. »
Eleanor Roosevelt
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« War is an ugly thing, but not the ugliest of things. The decayed and degraded state of moral and patriotic feeling which thinks that nothing is worth war is much worse. The person who has nothing for which he is willing to fight, nothing which is more important than his own personal safety, is a miserable creature and has no chance of being free unless made and kept so by the exertions of better men than himself. »
John Stuart Mill
English economist & philosopher (1806 - 1873)
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George Orwell
Who else is going to protect us?
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« Freedom makes a huge requirement of every human being. With freedom comes responsibility. For the person who is unwilling to grow up, the person who does not want to carry is own weight, this is a frightening prospect. »
Eleanor Roosevelt
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« War is an ugly thing, but not the ugliest of things. The decayed and degraded state of moral and patriotic feeling which thinks that nothing is worth war is much worse. The person who has nothing for which he is willing to fight, nothing which is more important than his own personal safety, is a miserable creature and has no chance of being free unless made and kept so by the exertions of better men than himself. »
John Stuart Mill
English economist & philosopher (1806 - 1873)
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Jun 14, 2011
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http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/story/2011/06/14/ptsd-soldiers-redeploy.html
5452. SOLDATS ANGLAIS ALLANT AU FRONT.
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DEFENCE NEWS THAT MATTERS
5451. LU
I remember being told by a psychologist just before I deployed that war changes 99 % of the people who go…..
and the other 1 %, well they were crazy before they left..
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Jun 14, 2011
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http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/story/2011/06/14/ptsd-soldiers-redeploy.html
and the other 1 %, well they were crazy before they left..
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Jun 14, 2011
CBC News
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/story/2011/06/14/ptsd-soldiers-redeploy.html
5450. LU
ID say you suffer mental illness, its called socialism and antiConservatism. Now do us canadians a favour and go play on the 401.
By the way, Canada was born and brought up through and due to War.
Read your Canadian history..
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Jun 14, 2011
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http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/story/2011/06/14/ptsd-soldiers-redeploy.html
By the way, Canada was born and brought up through and due to War.
Read your Canadian history..
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Jun 14, 2011
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http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/story/2011/06/14/ptsd-soldiers-redeploy.html
5449. LU
The Congo should be on the list of UN deployments and sanctions. Why not?.
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Jun 14, 2011
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http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/story/2011/06/14/ptsd-soldiers-redeploy.html
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CANADIAN MILITARY REDEPLOYING SOLDIERS WITH PTSD. POST-TRAUMATIC STRESS DISORDER
Jun 14, 2011
CBC News
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/story/2011/06/14/ptsd-soldiers-redeploy.html
5448. LU
Nobody probably has more PTSD than Taliban, Al Qaeda and Gadhafi soldiers.
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CANADIAN MILITARY REDEPLOYING SOLDIERS WITH PTSD. POST-TRAUMATIC STRESS DISORDER
Jun 14, 2011
CBC News
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/story/2011/06/14/ptsd-soldiers-redeploy.html
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CANADIAN MILITARY REDEPLOYING SOLDIERS WITH PTSD. POST-TRAUMATIC STRESS DISORDER
Jun 14, 2011
CBC News
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/story/2011/06/14/ptsd-soldiers-redeploy.html
5447. LU
If we compare ourselves to the US we will always be "vastly under funded and under equipped".
It's like our neighbour owns the toy company and we want what his kids have.
If we want what they have we will have to pay, but we could make it up out of sticks for all the good it would do us because the country they live in is owned by the toy store except they don't like to think so.
Our parents would go broke trying to buy what they have for what are generally over funded goofy wars, paid for by a nation of debt slaves. We are debt slaves also but we should mostly take it personal.
We are supposed to love our enemies but our soldiers don't get saint training, that is for sure.
As for PTSD originating in childhood trauma, I would say it is hardly a recognizable disease with an established cause if we say it is a psychological malfunction built in to us since childhood.
It all comes down to the dollars and cents we spend on toys or rehabilitation?
That is what got us there to start with, thinking toys and money are the answer.
But that is what the marketing of War will constantly tell us. If we don't have that F35 we can't compete, and some are PTSD cases because of their childhood? Can we "save" money?
Rehabilitation has a lot to do with neuron plasticity. A lot of it is being humble and recognizing or perhaps eventually overcoming new limitations. Neurosis or even psychosis may even fall to new ideas of neuroplasticity, which after all may only be a function of faith.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neuroplasticity
Should we play Cowboys, Indians and PTSD when we grow up?
Nobody probably has more PTSD than Taliban, Al Qaeda and Gadhafi soldiers.
Childhood may have more to do with it than I think.
Matt 13:33
Rom 12
Time wounds all heels.
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CANADIAN MILITARY REDEPLOYING SOLDIERS WITH PTSD. POST-TRAUMATIC STRESS DISORDER
Jun 14, 2011
CBC News
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/story/2011/06/14/ptsd-soldiers-redeploy.html
It's like our neighbour owns the toy company and we want what his kids have.
If we want what they have we will have to pay, but we could make it up out of sticks for all the good it would do us because the country they live in is owned by the toy store except they don't like to think so.
Our parents would go broke trying to buy what they have for what are generally over funded goofy wars, paid for by a nation of debt slaves. We are debt slaves also but we should mostly take it personal.
We are supposed to love our enemies but our soldiers don't get saint training, that is for sure.
As for PTSD originating in childhood trauma, I would say it is hardly a recognizable disease with an established cause if we say it is a psychological malfunction built in to us since childhood.
It all comes down to the dollars and cents we spend on toys or rehabilitation?
That is what got us there to start with, thinking toys and money are the answer.
But that is what the marketing of War will constantly tell us. If we don't have that F35 we can't compete, and some are PTSD cases because of their childhood? Can we "save" money?
Rehabilitation has a lot to do with neuron plasticity. A lot of it is being humble and recognizing or perhaps eventually overcoming new limitations. Neurosis or even psychosis may even fall to new ideas of neuroplasticity, which after all may only be a function of faith.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neuroplasticity
Should we play Cowboys, Indians and PTSD when we grow up?
Nobody probably has more PTSD than Taliban, Al Qaeda and Gadhafi soldiers.
Childhood may have more to do with it than I think.
Matt 13:33
Rom 12
Time wounds all heels.
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CANADIAN MILITARY REDEPLOYING SOLDIERS WITH PTSD. POST-TRAUMATIC STRESS DISORDER
Jun 14, 2011
CBC News
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/story/2011/06/14/ptsd-soldiers-redeploy.html
5446. COMMENTAIRES DU PEUPLE
1
It's the lottery of whether one's affected I find sickeningly unfair. My grandfather served in the trenches during the Great War, was heavily decorated, and saw horrors he would never speak of - (though he did talk about the 'trench humour' that kept spirits up), he didn't suffer from shell-shock. In the Second World War I had four relatives involved. My father served in Burma, one relative fought at Arnhem, another was at the liberation of Belsen, and a fourth spent time as a Japanese P.O.W. Only the last suffered P.T.S.D., as well as the physical scars from being thrashed by bamboo canes. He never spoke of his experience, nor would he ever remove his shirt in public - even on hot summer days. It seems nowadays though, even with a greater understanding of the illness, that this lottery of suffering still exists. Personally, I think financial factors are having to much influence in matters, both in returning people too soon, some of whom may only have partially recovered, and the willingness to help them thoroughly before and after leaving the Armed Forces. Most of all, these brave people need to be listened to, and treated as THEY see fit, and not what others deem fit for them. Cost should never enter into the equation. They've had a lifetime of stress and horror thrust upon them in a relatively short period of time, is it any wonder that some naturally succumb to such illness. I have nothing but admiration for anyone who serves their country. Best Wishes to them all!.
2
Canada, well I won't say Canada, the conservatives have to treat our soldiers with more respect. My dad suffered from PTSD all his life and that was after the second world war, they should have learned to recognize and treat it by now. The truth is that in today's world once they come back, there's nothing for them here.. no meaningful support at all from this government. Must be terrible to be a member of the armed forces and then come back and have to listen to the so called experts sitting in their offices who haven't a clue as to what war is all about on the front lines. Harper just plays war when he gets all dressed up and goes over to support our troops, he can come back ... be home having supper with his family that night, they can't and what do they have to look forward in the ways of support anyway when they do return. But I'm just commenting, I don't know a thing either about how they feel, much like the so called experts who don't know that much more..
3
Both VR and repeatedly talking about the event are psychological extinguishing techniques for lessening symptoms of PTSD, not for healing the underlying dissociated trauma. The repetition of events that the survivor consciously remembers is like listening to a stuck record. It is the sensory inputs from the event that were dissociated from and never consciously experienced that are energizing the mental and emotional disturbance. They must be brought into the survivor's awareness and understood as missing pieces of traumatic experience(s) for true healing to occur. No one heals a trauma survivor, they each must heal themselves, at their own pace, and in accordance with their own internal healing process.
What society can offer is support and understanding to help them do this. Useful ways for bringing unconscious material into awareness include keeping a journal, paying attention to dreams, art such as drawing and modelling in clay, and meditation for healing, including the sweat lodge. In talking about the insights gained through such methods the record becomes unstuck, and the whole of the trauma is fully experienced and understood and reacted to. Only then can the traumatic event become a completed memory and fade with time. That is the healing process as I understand it, as I have experienced it in my own life, and as I have witnessed in helping others on their healing path. Anything less is just first aid for temporary symptom relief, no matter how well intentioned those professing to be PTSD therapists. The military is a long way from truly understanding and helping PTSD survivors, and should not be sending them back into combat. There are other duties they could be performing instead. .
4
I have never had PTSD, however, I have lost a leg overseas and spent about a year in rehab with, among others, people who were suffering from PTSD.
My belief is that PTSD in no way means an individual is weak. Picking up children body parts after some taliban blew himself up downtown is hard to live with and some of the boys out there have more than enough memories like that to keep them awake at night.
Each person will respond differently to the same experience. I am back in school and I find school more stressing than my job was in the sandbox.
So, my advice would be to never point at someone and say that they do not have a valid reason to suffer from PTSD.
If an individual can go back and help make sure that the next bomb does not make it to the market, thereby saving young children, couldn't it be easier for the individual in question to carry on with life?
Not all people heal the same way..
5
I think one reason that affliclted soldiers worry that they'll be percieved as weak is simply because they now have an affliction that (in some cases) inhibits them from performing to the same standard that their comrades are performing at.
Being in the combat arms of the army is a lot like team sports.
It's very physical, and merit is based perfomance.
So any affliction that affects an individual's performance is inherently going to have a correlating effect on that individual's self worth.
In the army, weakness is frowned upon.
The guy who's always getting out of PT or field exercises because he has a pattern of recurring, yet invisible injuries that always seem to flare up just before hard work comes about is regarded as a malingerer, and is ostracised (rightly so).
But at the same time, the guy that doesn't participate in the hard work one day becuase he clearly has a cast on his leg from when he shattered it taking that trench last week is not looked down upon at all.
I suspect that the sense of shame harboured by some PTSD victims comes from a sense that their injury may be suspect, and that they may be seen as a malingerer, which is a source of shame.
The unfortuante part is that this sense is exacerbated by the fact that there is a prevalence of flase "PTSD malingering" going on in the CF - people who could not possibly have PTSD as they were never exposed to traumatic stress, yet claim to be afflicted, either for attention, or for monetary gain (despicable, but it's a sad fact, there are people out there who will take advantage of anything).
These people largely come from areas of the military that don't come anywhere close to the action.
I know one individual for example, who never left KAF, and claims PTSD based on his attending ramp ceremonies alone.
6
This is pure BS. Myself being a child WWII PTSD victim I speak from experience. I am now 73 years old and still facing the effects on a regular basis as do e.g. the remaining holocaust Israelis. I am convinced that the US people (and Israel) after three or four generations of military involvement (conscription) trapped in generational PTSD making it virtually impossible to 'start over'. They are doomed to staying the war course until their bitter end.
THIS IS WHY CANADA MUST NEVER BECOME A MILITAIRY NATION LIKE HARPER DIRECTS IT TO!
Our soldiers should never be allowed to serve more than one tour of duty..
7
PTSD. It is something that you have the rest of your life. It is a fracture of the mind. If affects everything you do and most you don't do. Every day for some of us is like reaching for a string or thread to hang on to life. A way to make it though the day against the enemy inside of you that wants you to destroy yourself.
It never goes away, medicated or not, it is merely sedated at best. (...)
PTSD had been the result of tours for many men/women. For decades now and back as far as the great wars.
Soldiers have gone places that Canadians do not know about, these were of an era pre Internet.
The public had no idea what was happening to soldiers. Many of them are on the street or in the brush hiding still.
Many more have taken their own lives.
For those who are so ignorant as to put a soldier down and are claiming to be tough... go ahead join today, don't wait until some need arises... big boy..
8
This is something that really, really unnerves me. I have several acquaintances who live with PTSD, either as a result of experiences in the military or as foreign correspondents, having covered grisly events such as the Rwandan genocide. PTSD is rarely, if ever, something you live with and suffer from for a few years and then get over like a bad physical injury. It stays with you for decades.
Although it's totally possible to undergo treatment and live a "normal" life, I figure that means a total realignment of duties within the military (desk job) not being plopped right back into the traumatic situation or one similar to it.
If the affected person has managed, through their own hard work and some therapy, to greatly improve their quality of life...then BANG, all that hard work is being undone when they are redeployed into combat.
Roméo Dallaire has been quite public about his experiences as an officer with PTSD. I'm very, very curious what he thinks about this. CBC, give him a call perhaps?
9
How can some people think that PTSD is for the weak?
If I was lying in a foxhole, ranger grave, or whatever you want to call it, and all around me things were exploding, my friends were dying and I could hear them screaming, and I was thinking that I was about to die at any second.
I think there might be some lasting effects from that. Especially if you had to do it repeatedly.
Now this scenario isn't Afghanistan but if I was in a country where I had to assume everyone wanted to kill me, everyone has weapons, anyone could be wired with explosives, and at any time as you are driving down the road your vehicle could explode, I don't think I would be exactly the same when I came home.
Like it or not I think every one of them comes home different. Some will be far worse than others, and most will be able to deal with it, but I don't think any are the same.
Assuming you would be perfectly fine because your a big man at your computer talking about how those whining soldiers should man up doesn't prove anything.
Try spending a day in their boots. If you aren't willing to stand behind our soldiers feel free to stand in front of them..
10
A study of Vietnam vets found that unlike those who recovered from combat trauma, more than 90% of those who developed PTSD had experienced overwhelming trauma as children. Adults carry dissociated sensory inputs from such early trauma in their minds as irrational fears, bodily sensations, and weird thoughts that they learn to live with and to regard as normal. They continue to have the ability to dissociate when faced with trauma as adults. They are also attracted to danger that reminds them of the dissociated trauma like moths to a flame, so often go into professions such as police, fire fighting, paramedics, and the military.
The ability to dissociate from their feelings and bodies can make them fearless and reckless and able to carry on despite wounds; in other words heroes in the face of life threatening danger. But such actions also add to the dissociated traumatic material in their subconscious minds, and can trigger subsequent full blown PTSD episodes. Current treatment for PTSD is primarily symptom relief, not permanent healing, because that would require understanding the symptoms as pieces of a chain of traumatic experiences that often goes back to early childhood, and employers will only pay for therapy for damage caused in the workplace.
Sending such patched up veterans back into combat without healing the underlying dissociation may result in exemplary acts of bravery and selfless performance, at the cost of recurring and worsening episodes of PTSD that can impair the quality of the rest of their lives. I do not think Canadians want their soldiers or other emergency workers regarded as expendable, and those with subclinical PTSD taken advantage of in this way.
11
We had a relative who suffered from PTSD in WW2 He served with the Edmonton Regiment at Ortona Italy AKA 'little Stalingard"
He was treated along with others, as cowards, as PTSD was not known or accepted at the time. There was stigma that vets suffered from. He fought in close quarter fighting, in a tank killing section with the infantry. He never got over it really.
Near the end of his life, the military finally recognized the condition, which really are wounds suffered in combat. The government never did pay him for 50 years of unpaid disabilty pension though for the wound suffered in combat.
I hope the military treats our vets better nowadays. .
12
Fundamentally, PTSD is like a bad phobia to an intrusive thought.
What wears people down, of course, is that, unlike spiders, or public speaking, or going on an airplace, or standing on the observation deck of the CN tower, an uncontrollable intrusive thought is not something that is easy to avoid.
And when you get people whose modus operandi is to be fearless (or at least not show it), and here they are at the mercy of fear they can't control, it can have a tremendous demoralizing effect, and certainly an impact on self-esteem, and precipitate depression.
At least regular phobics get to feel competent, as long as they stay away from public speaking, tall building, etc.
People with PTSD don't have that luxury.
13
There are a lot of people on here that treat people with PTSD as if we are some kind of fragile flowers or a disease to be gotten rid of.
Some people will never make it back however that doesn't mean you just quit or worse don't even try.
It makes me angry when people suggest that a career soldier just get another job. I have been doing this job (if you call it that) for 14 years I have a lot of effort, education, and even self worth tied up in this career. I would say it is not like a civilian job where I can quit and just go to another one. Imagine abandoning all your experience, training, and even what has become your normal. Truth is yes some will not make it back however they should not be Forced or have someone not let them try "For their own good".
14
as a fellow soldier with operational experience I can fully admit that a large majority of soldiers return to Canada with some form of PTSD.
The thing about PTSD is that just because a soldier has it, does not render him/her useless which is what the media and the arm chair generals would like others to think.
People deal with it differently, some lean on their families, both civilian and military, to deal with it, others turn to hobbies, some turn to a destructive lifestyle which is what normally makes the headlines.
It really is a shame that people right away think that they are experts on this issue, while in reality they know nothing about.
When I returned from Afghanistan the best treatment that I could give myself was to surround myself with my military family, my fellow soldiers that I had lived and soldiered with.
Yes I love my family but they simply cannot put themselves in your shoes when it comes to a topic like this. I can't stress how important that was for myself and others to be able to sit down and talk about the various things that had happened during the tour with my peers. There's no doctor or psychologist that can replace that.
Another thing that has really hurt this topic is that every soldier returning from theatre hears the same thing, right from mental health, the public, the media, the government, families etc. that it's "ok to be screwed up."
In short these soldiers are being told that it's ok for them to freak out in a large crowd, have anger issues, hate life in general, it's normal to be always switched on and in the game and engaged.
Soldiers should not be hearing this time after time after time, it breaks their spirit and sets the conditions for a long and rough road to recovery.
IMO, It's ok to be ok!.
16
it is not only the soldier who has to go through training to make sure they are mentally fit, but also the families need to meet with Padres to make sure that they are capable mentally and emotionally to survive a tour.
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CANADIAN MILITARY REDEPLOYING SOLDIERS WITH PTSD. POST-TRAUMATIC STRESS DISORDER
Jun 14, 2011
CBC News
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/story/2011/06/14/ptsd-soldiers-redeploy.html
It's the lottery of whether one's affected I find sickeningly unfair. My grandfather served in the trenches during the Great War, was heavily decorated, and saw horrors he would never speak of - (though he did talk about the 'trench humour' that kept spirits up), he didn't suffer from shell-shock. In the Second World War I had four relatives involved. My father served in Burma, one relative fought at Arnhem, another was at the liberation of Belsen, and a fourth spent time as a Japanese P.O.W. Only the last suffered P.T.S.D., as well as the physical scars from being thrashed by bamboo canes. He never spoke of his experience, nor would he ever remove his shirt in public - even on hot summer days. It seems nowadays though, even with a greater understanding of the illness, that this lottery of suffering still exists. Personally, I think financial factors are having to much influence in matters, both in returning people too soon, some of whom may only have partially recovered, and the willingness to help them thoroughly before and after leaving the Armed Forces. Most of all, these brave people need to be listened to, and treated as THEY see fit, and not what others deem fit for them. Cost should never enter into the equation. They've had a lifetime of stress and horror thrust upon them in a relatively short period of time, is it any wonder that some naturally succumb to such illness. I have nothing but admiration for anyone who serves their country. Best Wishes to them all!.
2
Canada, well I won't say Canada, the conservatives have to treat our soldiers with more respect. My dad suffered from PTSD all his life and that was after the second world war, they should have learned to recognize and treat it by now. The truth is that in today's world once they come back, there's nothing for them here.. no meaningful support at all from this government. Must be terrible to be a member of the armed forces and then come back and have to listen to the so called experts sitting in their offices who haven't a clue as to what war is all about on the front lines. Harper just plays war when he gets all dressed up and goes over to support our troops, he can come back ... be home having supper with his family that night, they can't and what do they have to look forward in the ways of support anyway when they do return. But I'm just commenting, I don't know a thing either about how they feel, much like the so called experts who don't know that much more..
3
Both VR and repeatedly talking about the event are psychological extinguishing techniques for lessening symptoms of PTSD, not for healing the underlying dissociated trauma. The repetition of events that the survivor consciously remembers is like listening to a stuck record. It is the sensory inputs from the event that were dissociated from and never consciously experienced that are energizing the mental and emotional disturbance. They must be brought into the survivor's awareness and understood as missing pieces of traumatic experience(s) for true healing to occur. No one heals a trauma survivor, they each must heal themselves, at their own pace, and in accordance with their own internal healing process.
What society can offer is support and understanding to help them do this. Useful ways for bringing unconscious material into awareness include keeping a journal, paying attention to dreams, art such as drawing and modelling in clay, and meditation for healing, including the sweat lodge. In talking about the insights gained through such methods the record becomes unstuck, and the whole of the trauma is fully experienced and understood and reacted to. Only then can the traumatic event become a completed memory and fade with time. That is the healing process as I understand it, as I have experienced it in my own life, and as I have witnessed in helping others on their healing path. Anything less is just first aid for temporary symptom relief, no matter how well intentioned those professing to be PTSD therapists. The military is a long way from truly understanding and helping PTSD survivors, and should not be sending them back into combat. There are other duties they could be performing instead. .
4
I have never had PTSD, however, I have lost a leg overseas and spent about a year in rehab with, among others, people who were suffering from PTSD.
My belief is that PTSD in no way means an individual is weak. Picking up children body parts after some taliban blew himself up downtown is hard to live with and some of the boys out there have more than enough memories like that to keep them awake at night.
Each person will respond differently to the same experience. I am back in school and I find school more stressing than my job was in the sandbox.
So, my advice would be to never point at someone and say that they do not have a valid reason to suffer from PTSD.
If an individual can go back and help make sure that the next bomb does not make it to the market, thereby saving young children, couldn't it be easier for the individual in question to carry on with life?
Not all people heal the same way..
5
I think one reason that affliclted soldiers worry that they'll be percieved as weak is simply because they now have an affliction that (in some cases) inhibits them from performing to the same standard that their comrades are performing at.
Being in the combat arms of the army is a lot like team sports.
It's very physical, and merit is based perfomance.
So any affliction that affects an individual's performance is inherently going to have a correlating effect on that individual's self worth.
In the army, weakness is frowned upon.
The guy who's always getting out of PT or field exercises because he has a pattern of recurring, yet invisible injuries that always seem to flare up just before hard work comes about is regarded as a malingerer, and is ostracised (rightly so).
But at the same time, the guy that doesn't participate in the hard work one day becuase he clearly has a cast on his leg from when he shattered it taking that trench last week is not looked down upon at all.
I suspect that the sense of shame harboured by some PTSD victims comes from a sense that their injury may be suspect, and that they may be seen as a malingerer, which is a source of shame.
The unfortuante part is that this sense is exacerbated by the fact that there is a prevalence of flase "PTSD malingering" going on in the CF - people who could not possibly have PTSD as they were never exposed to traumatic stress, yet claim to be afflicted, either for attention, or for monetary gain (despicable, but it's a sad fact, there are people out there who will take advantage of anything).
These people largely come from areas of the military that don't come anywhere close to the action.
I know one individual for example, who never left KAF, and claims PTSD based on his attending ramp ceremonies alone.
6
This is pure BS. Myself being a child WWII PTSD victim I speak from experience. I am now 73 years old and still facing the effects on a regular basis as do e.g. the remaining holocaust Israelis. I am convinced that the US people (and Israel) after three or four generations of military involvement (conscription) trapped in generational PTSD making it virtually impossible to 'start over'. They are doomed to staying the war course until their bitter end.
THIS IS WHY CANADA MUST NEVER BECOME A MILITAIRY NATION LIKE HARPER DIRECTS IT TO!
Our soldiers should never be allowed to serve more than one tour of duty..
7
PTSD. It is something that you have the rest of your life. It is a fracture of the mind. If affects everything you do and most you don't do. Every day for some of us is like reaching for a string or thread to hang on to life. A way to make it though the day against the enemy inside of you that wants you to destroy yourself.
It never goes away, medicated or not, it is merely sedated at best. (...)
PTSD had been the result of tours for many men/women. For decades now and back as far as the great wars.
Soldiers have gone places that Canadians do not know about, these were of an era pre Internet.
The public had no idea what was happening to soldiers. Many of them are on the street or in the brush hiding still.
Many more have taken their own lives.
For those who are so ignorant as to put a soldier down and are claiming to be tough... go ahead join today, don't wait until some need arises... big boy..
8
This is something that really, really unnerves me. I have several acquaintances who live with PTSD, either as a result of experiences in the military or as foreign correspondents, having covered grisly events such as the Rwandan genocide. PTSD is rarely, if ever, something you live with and suffer from for a few years and then get over like a bad physical injury. It stays with you for decades.
Although it's totally possible to undergo treatment and live a "normal" life, I figure that means a total realignment of duties within the military (desk job) not being plopped right back into the traumatic situation or one similar to it.
If the affected person has managed, through their own hard work and some therapy, to greatly improve their quality of life...then BANG, all that hard work is being undone when they are redeployed into combat.
Roméo Dallaire has been quite public about his experiences as an officer with PTSD. I'm very, very curious what he thinks about this. CBC, give him a call perhaps?
9
How can some people think that PTSD is for the weak?
If I was lying in a foxhole, ranger grave, or whatever you want to call it, and all around me things were exploding, my friends were dying and I could hear them screaming, and I was thinking that I was about to die at any second.
I think there might be some lasting effects from that. Especially if you had to do it repeatedly.
Now this scenario isn't Afghanistan but if I was in a country where I had to assume everyone wanted to kill me, everyone has weapons, anyone could be wired with explosives, and at any time as you are driving down the road your vehicle could explode, I don't think I would be exactly the same when I came home.
Like it or not I think every one of them comes home different. Some will be far worse than others, and most will be able to deal with it, but I don't think any are the same.
Assuming you would be perfectly fine because your a big man at your computer talking about how those whining soldiers should man up doesn't prove anything.
Try spending a day in their boots. If you aren't willing to stand behind our soldiers feel free to stand in front of them..
10
A study of Vietnam vets found that unlike those who recovered from combat trauma, more than 90% of those who developed PTSD had experienced overwhelming trauma as children. Adults carry dissociated sensory inputs from such early trauma in their minds as irrational fears, bodily sensations, and weird thoughts that they learn to live with and to regard as normal. They continue to have the ability to dissociate when faced with trauma as adults. They are also attracted to danger that reminds them of the dissociated trauma like moths to a flame, so often go into professions such as police, fire fighting, paramedics, and the military.
The ability to dissociate from their feelings and bodies can make them fearless and reckless and able to carry on despite wounds; in other words heroes in the face of life threatening danger. But such actions also add to the dissociated traumatic material in their subconscious minds, and can trigger subsequent full blown PTSD episodes. Current treatment for PTSD is primarily symptom relief, not permanent healing, because that would require understanding the symptoms as pieces of a chain of traumatic experiences that often goes back to early childhood, and employers will only pay for therapy for damage caused in the workplace.
Sending such patched up veterans back into combat without healing the underlying dissociation may result in exemplary acts of bravery and selfless performance, at the cost of recurring and worsening episodes of PTSD that can impair the quality of the rest of their lives. I do not think Canadians want their soldiers or other emergency workers regarded as expendable, and those with subclinical PTSD taken advantage of in this way.
11
We had a relative who suffered from PTSD in WW2 He served with the Edmonton Regiment at Ortona Italy AKA 'little Stalingard"
He was treated along with others, as cowards, as PTSD was not known or accepted at the time. There was stigma that vets suffered from. He fought in close quarter fighting, in a tank killing section with the infantry. He never got over it really.
Near the end of his life, the military finally recognized the condition, which really are wounds suffered in combat. The government never did pay him for 50 years of unpaid disabilty pension though for the wound suffered in combat.
I hope the military treats our vets better nowadays. .
12
Fundamentally, PTSD is like a bad phobia to an intrusive thought.
What wears people down, of course, is that, unlike spiders, or public speaking, or going on an airplace, or standing on the observation deck of the CN tower, an uncontrollable intrusive thought is not something that is easy to avoid.
And when you get people whose modus operandi is to be fearless (or at least not show it), and here they are at the mercy of fear they can't control, it can have a tremendous demoralizing effect, and certainly an impact on self-esteem, and precipitate depression.
At least regular phobics get to feel competent, as long as they stay away from public speaking, tall building, etc.
People with PTSD don't have that luxury.
13
There are a lot of people on here that treat people with PTSD as if we are some kind of fragile flowers or a disease to be gotten rid of.
Some people will never make it back however that doesn't mean you just quit or worse don't even try.
It makes me angry when people suggest that a career soldier just get another job. I have been doing this job (if you call it that) for 14 years I have a lot of effort, education, and even self worth tied up in this career. I would say it is not like a civilian job where I can quit and just go to another one. Imagine abandoning all your experience, training, and even what has become your normal. Truth is yes some will not make it back however they should not be Forced or have someone not let them try "For their own good".
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as a fellow soldier with operational experience I can fully admit that a large majority of soldiers return to Canada with some form of PTSD.
The thing about PTSD is that just because a soldier has it, does not render him/her useless which is what the media and the arm chair generals would like others to think.
People deal with it differently, some lean on their families, both civilian and military, to deal with it, others turn to hobbies, some turn to a destructive lifestyle which is what normally makes the headlines.
It really is a shame that people right away think that they are experts on this issue, while in reality they know nothing about.
When I returned from Afghanistan the best treatment that I could give myself was to surround myself with my military family, my fellow soldiers that I had lived and soldiered with.
Yes I love my family but they simply cannot put themselves in your shoes when it comes to a topic like this. I can't stress how important that was for myself and others to be able to sit down and talk about the various things that had happened during the tour with my peers. There's no doctor or psychologist that can replace that.
Another thing that has really hurt this topic is that every soldier returning from theatre hears the same thing, right from mental health, the public, the media, the government, families etc. that it's "ok to be screwed up."
In short these soldiers are being told that it's ok for them to freak out in a large crowd, have anger issues, hate life in general, it's normal to be always switched on and in the game and engaged.
Soldiers should not be hearing this time after time after time, it breaks their spirit and sets the conditions for a long and rough road to recovery.
IMO, It's ok to be ok!.
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it is not only the soldier who has to go through training to make sure they are mentally fit, but also the families need to meet with Padres to make sure that they are capable mentally and emotionally to survive a tour.
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CANADIAN MILITARY REDEPLOYING SOLDIERS WITH PTSD. POST-TRAUMATIC STRESS DISORDER
Jun 14, 2011
CBC News
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/story/2011/06/14/ptsd-soldiers-redeploy.html
5445. LU
1
I listened to this story last night on the National, and brought back an incident that happened to me earlier on in my military career. I won't tell the story just because, but.....I have to say that although some doctor can say you're "cured".......you never are cured. The incident, or the gonglomeration of incidents that caused one's PTSD are a part of one for the rest of one's life. The "cure", if it can be called that, is the ability of the individual to come to terms with the cause(s) of their PTSD. Sometimes, and not that infrequently, one NEVER comes to terms with it. Ask any "old" soldier...or sailor...or airman..........especially those from WWII...Korea.......and those who were unlucky enough to play in Vietnam. The mind is a complicated thing, and unfortunately there is no hard, fast cure for PTSD. DND/CF
(...)
the old idea of "if you fall off your bike, you get right back up on it" may not be the best approach.
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«They don't have PTSD, they just start throwing chairs and yelling.»
General of the Military..
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Cheese, who would have ever thought going to a foreign country, and terrorizing the local population, killing innocents, looting the countries resources and wreaking carnage and destruction, would result in a guilty conscience?.
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War certainly is a traumatic experience for soldiers, more so when we are the aggressors rather then acting in a self defense capacity..
[Ça dépend! Il faudrait le demander à une femme violée si elle pense que sa situation est plus traumatisante que celle du violeur. Bien sûr, c'est encore une question de point de vue.]
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CANADIAN MILITARY REDEPLOYING SOLDIERS WITH PTSD. POST-TRAUMATIC STRESS DISORDER
Jun 14, 2011
CBC News
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/story/2011/06/14/ptsd-soldiers-redeploy.html
I listened to this story last night on the National, and brought back an incident that happened to me earlier on in my military career. I won't tell the story just because, but.....I have to say that although some doctor can say you're "cured".......you never are cured. The incident, or the gonglomeration of incidents that caused one's PTSD are a part of one for the rest of one's life. The "cure", if it can be called that, is the ability of the individual to come to terms with the cause(s) of their PTSD. Sometimes, and not that infrequently, one NEVER comes to terms with it. Ask any "old" soldier...or sailor...or airman..........especially those from WWII...Korea.......and those who were unlucky enough to play in Vietnam. The mind is a complicated thing, and unfortunately there is no hard, fast cure for PTSD. DND/CF
(...)
the old idea of "if you fall off your bike, you get right back up on it" may not be the best approach.
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«They don't have PTSD, they just start throwing chairs and yelling.»
General of the Military..
3
Cheese, who would have ever thought going to a foreign country, and terrorizing the local population, killing innocents, looting the countries resources and wreaking carnage and destruction, would result in a guilty conscience?.
4
War certainly is a traumatic experience for soldiers, more so when we are the aggressors rather then acting in a self defense capacity..
[Ça dépend! Il faudrait le demander à une femme violée si elle pense que sa situation est plus traumatisante que celle du violeur. Bien sûr, c'est encore une question de point de vue.]
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CANADIAN MILITARY REDEPLOYING SOLDIERS WITH PTSD. POST-TRAUMATIC STRESS DISORDER
Jun 14, 2011
CBC News
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/story/2011/06/14/ptsd-soldiers-redeploy.html
5444. LU
Just think how great this world would be if we spent all the money countries spend on wars, and spent it on all the human race... I say what a waste of resources, and human beings.
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CANADIAN MILITARY REDEPLOYING SOLDIERS WITH PTSD. POST-TRAUMATIC STRESS DISORDER
Jun 14, 2011
CBC News
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/story/2011/06/14/ptsd-soldiers-redeploy.html
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CANADIAN MILITARY REDEPLOYING SOLDIERS WITH PTSD. POST-TRAUMATIC STRESS DISORDER
Jun 14, 2011
CBC News
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/story/2011/06/14/ptsd-soldiers-redeploy.html
5443
Image. http://static.sftcdn.net/fr/scrn/51000/51533/cannon-fodder-1.jpg
http://cannon-fodder.softonic.fr/
“Accompagnez vos soldats sur les sentiers de la gloire”
par Jérémie Sebban sur Cannon Fodder , qu'on pourrait traduire par "chair à canon", vous place à la tête d'un groupe de soldats commandos pour remplir diverses missions.
Cela va de l'extermination totale de la présence ennemie à la destruction d'objectifs stratégiques à coups d'explosifs.
Initialement développé pour Amiga, Cannon Fodder fut en son temps un véritable hit. Hormis son aspect satirique et un slogan accrocheur "La guerre n'a jamais été aussi amusante", ce jeu a fait date grâce à un gameplay efficace et novateur.
La gestion des personnages constitue sa principale originalité:
chaque soldat possède un prénom unique qui sera cité au champs d'honneur en cas de décès.
Les survivants d'une mission sont disponibles pour la suivante et se voient gratifier de bonus [et de médailles ou de jolis roubans] qui permettent de mieux faire face aux difficultés croissantes.
Enfin, le succès relatif des missions attire plus ou moins de nouvelles recrues vers votre caserne.
La réussite est tellement liée à leur destin qu'on finit par s'attacher à ces petits bonshommes qu'on envoie casser leur pipe.
A vous de gérer votre réservoir humain de "chair à canon".
Défoulant et stimulant, ce petit jeu de guerre n'a pas pris une ride et ne risque pas de mettre votre configuration à genoux. A télécharger absolument.
LES PLUS
•Gratuit
•Fun
•Prenant
http://cannon-fodder.softonic.fr/
“Accompagnez vos soldats sur les sentiers de la gloire”
par Jérémie Sebban sur Cannon Fodder , qu'on pourrait traduire par "chair à canon", vous place à la tête d'un groupe de soldats commandos pour remplir diverses missions.
Cela va de l'extermination totale de la présence ennemie à la destruction d'objectifs stratégiques à coups d'explosifs.
Initialement développé pour Amiga, Cannon Fodder fut en son temps un véritable hit. Hormis son aspect satirique et un slogan accrocheur "La guerre n'a jamais été aussi amusante", ce jeu a fait date grâce à un gameplay efficace et novateur.
La gestion des personnages constitue sa principale originalité:
chaque soldat possède un prénom unique qui sera cité au champs d'honneur en cas de décès.
Les survivants d'une mission sont disponibles pour la suivante et se voient gratifier de bonus [et de médailles ou de jolis roubans] qui permettent de mieux faire face aux difficultés croissantes.
Enfin, le succès relatif des missions attire plus ou moins de nouvelles recrues vers votre caserne.
La réussite est tellement liée à leur destin qu'on finit par s'attacher à ces petits bonshommes qu'on envoie casser leur pipe.
A vous de gérer votre réservoir humain de "chair à canon".
Défoulant et stimulant, ce petit jeu de guerre n'a pas pris une ride et ne risque pas de mettre votre configuration à genoux. A télécharger absolument.
LES PLUS
•Gratuit
•Fun
•Prenant
5442. LU
We are in Afghanistan in support of the US who used the NATO argument to get us involved.
The reason: to keep the Middle East fragmented, and that keeps the oil flowing.
We are there to support the big oil companies.
We are involved in regime change in Libya.
To settle that country down and install a puppet government who will keep the oil flowing.
We are there to support the big oil companies.
Syria is murdering their own people. Committing genocide. But they have no oil to sell. So we let the country spiral down into Hell.
Big Oil isn't interested in Syria.
[Oh! Il ne faut pas croire tout ce qu'on dit. Si on arrive à creuser à travers les montagnes de mensonges (la plupart des gens en sont encore à croire que tout ce qu'on leur dit est vrai!), il ne faut pas croire que parce qu'on est fatigué qu'on est enfin arrivé au bout. Envahir le Syrie (mieux! L'Iran!), cette idée fait jouir tant des gens de biens. Et ce ne serait pas mieux que les autres. ]
We sacrifice our young soldiers to aid the oil companies make money. Simple as that.
[Ne pas oublier les compagnies minières. Et, bien sûr, les manufacturiers d'armes. L'«industrie» de la «sécurité».]
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CANADIAN MILITARY REDEPLOYING SOLDIERS WITH PTSD. POST-TRAUMATIC STRESS DISORDER
Jun 14, 2011
CBC News
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/story/2011/06/14/ptsd-soldiers-redeploy.html
The reason: to keep the Middle East fragmented, and that keeps the oil flowing.
We are there to support the big oil companies.
We are involved in regime change in Libya.
To settle that country down and install a puppet government who will keep the oil flowing.
We are there to support the big oil companies.
Syria is murdering their own people. Committing genocide. But they have no oil to sell. So we let the country spiral down into Hell.
Big Oil isn't interested in Syria.
[Oh! Il ne faut pas croire tout ce qu'on dit. Si on arrive à creuser à travers les montagnes de mensonges (la plupart des gens en sont encore à croire que tout ce qu'on leur dit est vrai!), il ne faut pas croire que parce qu'on est fatigué qu'on est enfin arrivé au bout. Envahir le Syrie (mieux! L'Iran!), cette idée fait jouir tant des gens de biens. Et ce ne serait pas mieux que les autres. ]
We sacrifice our young soldiers to aid the oil companies make money. Simple as that.
[Ne pas oublier les compagnies minières. Et, bien sûr, les manufacturiers d'armes. L'«industrie» de la «sécurité».]
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CANADIAN MILITARY REDEPLOYING SOLDIERS WITH PTSD. POST-TRAUMATIC STRESS DISORDER
Jun 14, 2011
CBC News
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/story/2011/06/14/ptsd-soldiers-redeploy.html
5441. LU
What, sending people off to kill innocent people and die or be maimed in pointless wars?
Well, you know, it's okay as long as the hired killers/IED fodder come from a wide variety of socio-economic-ethnic backgrounds.
http://dirtygreeniehippie.blogspot.com/2010/06/first-youre-cannonfodder.html
DIRTY GREENIE HIPPY
A PLEDGE PIN? ON YOUR UNIFORM???
Well, you know, it's okay as long as the hired killers/IED fodder come from a wide variety of socio-economic-ethnic backgrounds.
http://dirtygreeniehippie.blogspot.com/2010/06/first-youre-cannonfodder.html
DIRTY GREENIE HIPPY
A PLEDGE PIN? ON YOUR UNIFORM???
5440. LU
That diminishing band of us who celebrate having memories of slightly greater capacity than the proverbial goldfish in a bowl will recall (...)
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DEFENCE OF THE REALM
DEFENCE NEWS THAT MATTERS
http://defenceoftherealm.blogspot.com/
[Je ne sais pas si c'est cette maladie de plus en plus remarquable (non par ses effets exceptionnels... quoique) (mais sa présente et si commune qu'on ne peut pas ne pas la remarquer) (sauf les personnes atteintes, bien sûr!)qui fait qu'il est de plus en plus rare de rencontrer des gens qui se rappellent quoi que ce soit du passé immédiat. Ou un peu plus lointain. Les sympstômes affectent moins la vie de tous les jours et on se souvient encore de ce qu'on a déjeuné et qui ou quoi a couché avec soi la veille. Mais toute nouvelle politique, sociale, financière, tout ce qui affecte la communauté (le mot est de nos jours excessif - troupeau est plus précis) s'oublie presque aussi vite à la mesure du choc ressenti. Les partis politiques ont beau jeu de promettre n'importe quoi. Et leurs «erreurs» ou «crimes» n'ont même pas besoin d'être pardonné ou de les forcer à se repentir puisque tout est déjà oublié. Fascinant!]
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DEFENCE OF THE REALM
DEFENCE NEWS THAT MATTERS
http://defenceoftherealm.blogspot.com/
[Je ne sais pas si c'est cette maladie de plus en plus remarquable (non par ses effets exceptionnels... quoique) (mais sa présente et si commune qu'on ne peut pas ne pas la remarquer) (sauf les personnes atteintes, bien sûr!)qui fait qu'il est de plus en plus rare de rencontrer des gens qui se rappellent quoi que ce soit du passé immédiat. Ou un peu plus lointain. Les sympstômes affectent moins la vie de tous les jours et on se souvient encore de ce qu'on a déjeuné et qui ou quoi a couché avec soi la veille. Mais toute nouvelle politique, sociale, financière, tout ce qui affecte la communauté (le mot est de nos jours excessif - troupeau est plus précis) s'oublie presque aussi vite à la mesure du choc ressenti. Les partis politiques ont beau jeu de promettre n'importe quoi. Et leurs «erreurs» ou «crimes» n'ont même pas besoin d'être pardonné ou de les forcer à se repentir puisque tout est déjà oublié. Fascinant!]
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CANNON FODDER
http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cannon_Fodder
HALL OF LIGHT
http://hol.abime.net/2917
Cannon Fodder est un jeu vidéo de stratégie/action développé par Sensible Software et édité par Virgin Interactive en 1993 sur Amiga. Le jeu a été porté sur Atari ST, DOS et consoles de jeu en 1994. Il a eu une suite en 1994, Cannon Fodder 2.
Système de jeu [modifier] Le joueur dirige une petite équipe de soldats qu'il dirige à l'aide d'un curseur. Il peut ainsi leur indiquer une direction, et pendant qu'ils se déplacent leur faire tirer dans d'autres directions. Il est possible de diviser ses hommes en plusieurs équipes séparées. Le jeu est composé de missions, elles-mêmes parfois sous-divisé en phases.
Les vies et le gameover sont gérés de manière classiques mais sont habillées d'une forme particulière : chez vous se trouve une colline, nommée "Boot Hill". À chaque nouvelle mission, un certain nombre de jeunes recrues vient rejoindre votre armée et attends au pied de la dite colline (chacune avec son propre nom, les plus connus étant les 3 premières : Jools, Jops et Stoo).
Lorsque vous perdez une recrue en mission, une tombe apparait sur la colline et une nouvelle recrue est enrolée à sa place (pour la mission suivante ou nouvelle tentative de celle en cours).
Le jeu baigne dans une ambiance humoristique.
[Et sans doute de saine camaraderie.]
À noter [modifier] Le jeu fait partie de la liste des programmes interdit en Allemagne, et il l'est toujours aujourd'hui (au moins de 18 ans pour le moins).
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Image. http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fichier:Cannon-fodder-logo.png
Logo du jeu vidéo Cannon Fodder
HALL OF LIGHT
http://hol.abime.net/2917
5438. LU. LES AFGHANS SONT VOS AMIS ET LE GOUVERNEMENT CANADIEN AUSSI. ET QUE DIRE DE L'ARMÉE CANADIENNE...
The Government of Canada considers military personnel to be expendable.
[Comme tous les États. Ne dit-on pas «chair à canon» en France et «cannon fodder» si on parle anglo. L'entraînement de base consiste à les mettre en forme tout en les fatiguant assez pour leur faire perdre leur personnalité et le fondre en un seul groupe dirigé par un officier de base. Groupes et officiers de base étant intégré dans un plus grand groupe lui-même.... Le tout s'appelant «armée». Ceci permet aux États-Majors de jouer au jeu de blocs de couleurs (pour faire joli) (et les différencier des blocs de l'adversaire) sur de grandes tables (avant l'internet) où on reconstituait la colline à prendre, la ville à occuper ou le pays à envahir. Si le soldat de base est assez bien dressé, il acceptera de mourir -la chose n'est pas présenté ainsi, aussi abruptement- sur ordre. La subtilité étant qu'il doit rarement mourir seul et qu'il a donc un certain nombre de chance d'en réchapper. Le jeu consistant pour l'officier de base sur les ordres de son officier supérieur qui lui-même obéit aux généraux-amiraux devant leur carré de sable avec les blocs de bois de dire à ses hommes: hop là! Oups! Allez les gars! Pour la reine! Vive la patrie! Merci la vie! (signifiant: avancer). Et ils courent en avant (courir en arrière s'appelle «fuir») (à moins d'en avoir reçu l'ordre sous forme de «retraite en ordre régulier pour se regrouper à l'arrière) (Chez les Romains, les légionnaires fuyards étaient crucifiés.). La situation pour un citoyen de base: avancer vers une mitrailleuse qui tire sur vous! lui ferait peur. Et il refuserait d'avancer (dans les armées où on n'a pas eu le temps de driller les citoyens de base pour en faire des soldats de base (situation de l'URSS envahit par Hitler) on recourait à la méthode de Pavlov. L'officier qui donnait un ordre qui n'était pas immédiatement obéi tirait une balle dans la tête au citoyen désobéissant. Ce qui encourageait fortement les autres à avancer. Si, après une courte avance, les tirs du joueur adverse (en avant) le faisait reculer, l'officier de base tirait dans le dos des plus lents qui avançaient encore et dans le ventre de ceux qui revenaient sur leurs pas. Les Français, en 1914, pour remédier à la même situation tiraient au canon à l'arrière de leur troupe pour les encourager à aller de l'avant. L'effet psychologique était immédiat. Et pour une efficacité plus grande, on tirait SUR les lambins. Voir leurs confrères de travail réduits en charpies faisant prendre conscience aux armées de base qu'ils avaient peut-être plus de chance de s'en tirer en allant en avant. Ou la mort, au moins serait retardée. De l'usage de Pavlov dans les petites choses de la vie.]
The soldiers are not treated like human beings but as robots trained and sent to kill and be killed.
[L'effet de l'entraînement de base est de transformer l'individu en partie d'un troupeau d'insecte. En plus de lui montrer à tuer efficacement. Et à être tué le plus difficilement possible. Mais lorsqu'une telle chose arrivera inévitablement (si pas à vous mais à un de vos collègues de travail à côté de vous) (ou en avant) prendre la chose avec un grain de sel. Et en tirer une motivation supplémentaire de gagner cette foutue guerre. Ou, au moins, prendre cette fichue colline 213 b. Ou c. ]
[Le soldat est un tueur professionnel. Comme en utilise la Mafia. Certaines personnes dans nos sociétés ont le rôle des intouchables en Inde. Ceux qui s'occupent des malades, des morts, de la merde, des vidanges. Ou tuent. On avait les bourreaux entraînés à faire souffrir indéfiniment et à faire ressentir une infinie variété de douleurs aux condamnés sur les ordres des autoritiés politiques, militaires ou religieuses. On n'en a plus. Même les bourreaux qui tuaient le plus simplement du monde sont réservés à des pays du Tiers-Monde et les USA (ce qui dit beaucoup de choses). Il reste les bouchers puisqu'on mange encore de la viande de bêtes mortes. Les thanatologues qui traitent les cadavres (embaumement) avant de les enterrer. Ceux qui font les autopsie pour découvrir les causes d'une maladie ou d'un assassinat. Les chirurgiens. Il reste les soldats. Qui tueront sur ordre. ]
During the early months of the war in Afghanistan Canadian troops wore green uniforms in a desert environment
and rode around in ordinary jeeps.
The uniforms gave no protection against snipers and the jeeps gave no protection against Improvised Explosive Devices buried by the Taliban in the roads.
Only an impersonal Government and Military Leadership could have sent soldiers not properly equipped to a brutal combat zone.
These soldiers were sitting ducks and made up the bulk of the casualties.
Even the armored personnel carriers were not equipped with armored captains chairs in which the soldiers could use lap and shoulder restraint belts while on patrol.
When the personnel carriers were blown up, some were thrown as high as 100 feet in the air and others rolled over and over.
As a consequence, the soldiers were not killed from the blast or shrapnel but died as a result of trauma such as head injury, broken necks and backs from being hurled around inside the personnel carrier vehicle.
This information was never released to the media or the public.
Trauma from explosion continues to be the primary cause of death for unrestrained Canadian soldiers riding inside armored personnel carriers.
An armored vehicle is of no use if the soldiers inside get thrown around the interior of the vehicle when it gets blown up.
[Vous ne finissez pas en giclée de sang mais comme des oeufs tombant par terre. Tout est en métat à l'intérieur de ces véhicules «blindés». Le rembourrage est considéré dépense inutile. On n'est tout de même pas en limo.]
The Government of Canada relies on public relations baloney and patriotic garbage to cover up the reasons why most of our soldiers get killed.
Most of the deaths can be avoided.
[La façon la plus simple est de ne plus aller se battre. Mais c'est trop simple. C'est une des raisons qui explique que le recrutement se fait chez les jeunes hommes enthousiates et rarement, sauf conscription générale, chez les misanthrophes pessimistes de 50 ans. Les jeunes hommes qui aiment l'aventure et le sport. Les mêmes ado qui font du car surfing derrière une auto. Pour les mêmes raisons. Leur cerveau de jeune mâle est insuffisamment développé pour comprendre les conséquences de leurs actes. ]
The Government gave inferior body armor to soldiers because funerals are cheaper than the cost of quality armor! .
Deep Cover. 2011/06/15
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CANADIAN MILITARY REDEPLOYING SOLDIERS WITH PTSD. POST-TRAUMATIC STRESS DISORDER
Jun 14, 2011
CBC News
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/story/2011/06/14/ptsd-soldiers-redeploy.html
[Comme tous les États. Ne dit-on pas «chair à canon» en France et «cannon fodder» si on parle anglo. L'entraînement de base consiste à les mettre en forme tout en les fatiguant assez pour leur faire perdre leur personnalité et le fondre en un seul groupe dirigé par un officier de base. Groupes et officiers de base étant intégré dans un plus grand groupe lui-même.... Le tout s'appelant «armée». Ceci permet aux États-Majors de jouer au jeu de blocs de couleurs (pour faire joli) (et les différencier des blocs de l'adversaire) sur de grandes tables (avant l'internet) où on reconstituait la colline à prendre, la ville à occuper ou le pays à envahir. Si le soldat de base est assez bien dressé, il acceptera de mourir -la chose n'est pas présenté ainsi, aussi abruptement- sur ordre. La subtilité étant qu'il doit rarement mourir seul et qu'il a donc un certain nombre de chance d'en réchapper. Le jeu consistant pour l'officier de base sur les ordres de son officier supérieur qui lui-même obéit aux généraux-amiraux devant leur carré de sable avec les blocs de bois de dire à ses hommes: hop là! Oups! Allez les gars! Pour la reine! Vive la patrie! Merci la vie! (signifiant: avancer). Et ils courent en avant (courir en arrière s'appelle «fuir») (à moins d'en avoir reçu l'ordre sous forme de «retraite en ordre régulier pour se regrouper à l'arrière) (Chez les Romains, les légionnaires fuyards étaient crucifiés.). La situation pour un citoyen de base: avancer vers une mitrailleuse qui tire sur vous! lui ferait peur. Et il refuserait d'avancer (dans les armées où on n'a pas eu le temps de driller les citoyens de base pour en faire des soldats de base (situation de l'URSS envahit par Hitler) on recourait à la méthode de Pavlov. L'officier qui donnait un ordre qui n'était pas immédiatement obéi tirait une balle dans la tête au citoyen désobéissant. Ce qui encourageait fortement les autres à avancer. Si, après une courte avance, les tirs du joueur adverse (en avant) le faisait reculer, l'officier de base tirait dans le dos des plus lents qui avançaient encore et dans le ventre de ceux qui revenaient sur leurs pas. Les Français, en 1914, pour remédier à la même situation tiraient au canon à l'arrière de leur troupe pour les encourager à aller de l'avant. L'effet psychologique était immédiat. Et pour une efficacité plus grande, on tirait SUR les lambins. Voir leurs confrères de travail réduits en charpies faisant prendre conscience aux armées de base qu'ils avaient peut-être plus de chance de s'en tirer en allant en avant. Ou la mort, au moins serait retardée. De l'usage de Pavlov dans les petites choses de la vie.]
The soldiers are not treated like human beings but as robots trained and sent to kill and be killed.
[L'effet de l'entraînement de base est de transformer l'individu en partie d'un troupeau d'insecte. En plus de lui montrer à tuer efficacement. Et à être tué le plus difficilement possible. Mais lorsqu'une telle chose arrivera inévitablement (si pas à vous mais à un de vos collègues de travail à côté de vous) (ou en avant) prendre la chose avec un grain de sel. Et en tirer une motivation supplémentaire de gagner cette foutue guerre. Ou, au moins, prendre cette fichue colline 213 b. Ou c. ]
[Le soldat est un tueur professionnel. Comme en utilise la Mafia. Certaines personnes dans nos sociétés ont le rôle des intouchables en Inde. Ceux qui s'occupent des malades, des morts, de la merde, des vidanges. Ou tuent. On avait les bourreaux entraînés à faire souffrir indéfiniment et à faire ressentir une infinie variété de douleurs aux condamnés sur les ordres des autoritiés politiques, militaires ou religieuses. On n'en a plus. Même les bourreaux qui tuaient le plus simplement du monde sont réservés à des pays du Tiers-Monde et les USA (ce qui dit beaucoup de choses). Il reste les bouchers puisqu'on mange encore de la viande de bêtes mortes. Les thanatologues qui traitent les cadavres (embaumement) avant de les enterrer. Ceux qui font les autopsie pour découvrir les causes d'une maladie ou d'un assassinat. Les chirurgiens. Il reste les soldats. Qui tueront sur ordre. ]
During the early months of the war in Afghanistan Canadian troops wore green uniforms in a desert environment
and rode around in ordinary jeeps.
The uniforms gave no protection against snipers and the jeeps gave no protection against Improvised Explosive Devices buried by the Taliban in the roads.
Only an impersonal Government and Military Leadership could have sent soldiers not properly equipped to a brutal combat zone.
These soldiers were sitting ducks and made up the bulk of the casualties.
Even the armored personnel carriers were not equipped with armored captains chairs in which the soldiers could use lap and shoulder restraint belts while on patrol.
When the personnel carriers were blown up, some were thrown as high as 100 feet in the air and others rolled over and over.
As a consequence, the soldiers were not killed from the blast or shrapnel but died as a result of trauma such as head injury, broken necks and backs from being hurled around inside the personnel carrier vehicle.
This information was never released to the media or the public.
Trauma from explosion continues to be the primary cause of death for unrestrained Canadian soldiers riding inside armored personnel carriers.
An armored vehicle is of no use if the soldiers inside get thrown around the interior of the vehicle when it gets blown up.
[Vous ne finissez pas en giclée de sang mais comme des oeufs tombant par terre. Tout est en métat à l'intérieur de ces véhicules «blindés». Le rembourrage est considéré dépense inutile. On n'est tout de même pas en limo.]
The Government of Canada relies on public relations baloney and patriotic garbage to cover up the reasons why most of our soldiers get killed.
Most of the deaths can be avoided.
[La façon la plus simple est de ne plus aller se battre. Mais c'est trop simple. C'est une des raisons qui explique que le recrutement se fait chez les jeunes hommes enthousiates et rarement, sauf conscription générale, chez les misanthrophes pessimistes de 50 ans. Les jeunes hommes qui aiment l'aventure et le sport. Les mêmes ado qui font du car surfing derrière une auto. Pour les mêmes raisons. Leur cerveau de jeune mâle est insuffisamment développé pour comprendre les conséquences de leurs actes. ]
The Government gave inferior body armor to soldiers because funerals are cheaper than the cost of quality armor! .
Deep Cover. 2011/06/15
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CANADIAN MILITARY REDEPLOYING SOLDIERS WITH PTSD. POST-TRAUMATIC STRESS DISORDER
Jun 14, 2011
CBC News
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/story/2011/06/14/ptsd-soldiers-redeploy.html
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